hello and thankyou for your vauable time and imput quick and conciese ,i like that , it saves me time i'm new to all this kind of public bit & bite domain, i like it but lack the navigational knowledge to communicate quickly, so please everyonebear with me until i can get my ears dried off .ok on to a response.is that a bull mastif great pic' what i mean about nontraditional arts is ,teaching somthing after you the artist has dicovered in your own a way something or technicthat has alot more room for development and teaching this hands on andyou create while we learn like me i lack any formal training or education ( as if you coud'nt tell, my 7th grade english teacher screaming now or soon will be if this works)in any art form but i found myself wanting to make and create from my own hands and i have, in several different mediums from leaning to restore more than 100 year old stained glass(locust hill church on nc. hwy 150 complete with glass covering and inclosers for protection i had to pull them unmount and disassemble them heat them back to flat repair all cracks and glass i could, reinforce ,clean,reassemble and rehang and cover them)and lack of funds time sort of kept forcing me tolearn byshort cut (one more thing I'm dislexick ) so now i have dabbled and completed projects, woodturning, bowls, hammers ,handles, gavles, cups you can see light through,hoosier highboy kitchen cabinet,and restored and repaired too many antiques, built outside log benches,hand forged my own knives, (after the first knife from a brakedrum forge i put together, i designed and built a portable gas forge unit you can take apart with 2 thumb screws and put in your vehicle sits on a bbq stand you can use one side at atime or both or through the whole unit for long tracktor parts) cast silver, weld ,built log cabins ,concreate work ,and almost any house hold repair,learned to pull motors and rebuild cars,trucks and fabricate,leared to machine almost all metals,and anadies,cast form and weld (have'nt tried a breaker box yet) andthe list goes on. (just in case theres any bandsaw about me or my skills soo far i'll take my examples to mike(i'll expose who mike is later if i get his blessing or he tells you him self) and let him critick and get back to you )the point is i was apoor boy from up north who never picked upa screw driver before june 1st 1990, i learn by neccesity and now it's want to know not neccicerily (baad can't find spell ceck)master but thier are other people like me who don't want to or have the time for a long class they just wan to come and oserve you for a while get what they think they need and go on and play on thier own no fus no mus no curriculum they observe ,you create they learn and go home .no certificates no graduations no prerequsit class you dont want. they get to like it or leave it and we can rotate artisists invite them to stay a month or two or stay if there is enough intrest in what they are doing , this also keeps cost down ,insurance, we can rent and return equipment for almost anything you can think of. the artists only work not students. no videos or pictures allowed, i don't see the need unless the artist doesnt mind and gives written permission to be videod(need to make money still ,to survive sothats how we keep them comming) artists in the wild i can see it now the crocadile hunters daughter on the hunt for the elusive ------ well you get the idea . i tried really hard to get this consept through mikes head last night but i believe he missed the boat , so mike if your caught up now andnot sore at me now i'll be seeing ya. thankyou everyone this took along time typing like a chicken. P.S. to the last part of your quest yesplease i need help cant you tell. ( also i realise i've put a new concept out in the open everyone thats not above board and copy or steal the idea i have all ready retained legal council to protect mine and this county's intrest) so thank you all again for laboring through this with me .help! this thing look a mess after posting it sentinces and word moved all out of place i have problems spelling but this sounds way out thier reading it now sorry i tried.i'm not a master of any one thing but i don't want to be right now i just want to learn what i think i need not what eveyone else thinks i would need .