KD lumber run #2 - 4/4 QSWO & 8/4 Soft Maple

[jeff...]

Working on the next Kiln Dry Raleigh Lumber run.

As the lumber starts rolling off the mill I'll update this post with pics.
What you can expect is to receive is fresh rough cut, kiln dried and stabilized lumber to a target moisture content of 6 ~8%, that'll be ready to work as soon as you get it back to your shop.

Here's whats available for this run.

Upto 480 BF of KD 4/4 Quarter Sawn White Oak for $3.30 a BF
[strike]Upto 125 BF of KD 4/4 Quarter Sawn Black Locust for $3.40 a BF [/strike]
Upto 550 BF of KD 8/4 Flat Sawn soft maple for $3.50 a BF

I'll arrange a pickup somewhere in Raleigh after the lumber is kiln dried.

If your interested in purchasing either the QSWO or FS Soft Maple, please reply to this post specify species and BF desired.

* twodognc - 100BF 4/4 QSWO
* tuchwud - 150BF 8/4 soft maple
* bman - 30BF 8/4 soft maple
* snowshoehare - 30BF 8/4 soft maple
* WoodArtZ - 15 ~ 20BF 8/4 soft maple
* Sediener - 60BF 8/4 soft maple

Totals:
4/4 QSWO - 100 BF sold (380 BF left)
8/4 Soft Maple - 290 BF sold (260 BF left)

Thanks

 

[bman]

Re: KD lumber run #2 - QSBL / QSWO / Soft Maple

jeff
:eusa_thin would be wanting some soft maple if you get it 4/4 6-8'' wide 50-75 bf depending on price

 

[jeff...]

Re: KD lumber run #2 - QSBL / QSWO / Soft Maple

jeff
:eusa_thin would be wanting some soft maple if you get it 4/4 6-8'' wide 50-75 bf depending on price

Barry, I'm waiting on a response from Scott about 8/4 soft maple, I've got a few logs that are big enough to make some wide 8/4 soft maple. So I hope we can mix it in with the QSBL and QSWO. Scott what's the verdict can we do 8/4 soft maple, 4/4 soft maple, 4/4 QSWO and 4/4 QSBL in the same load. I like to keep Scott on his toes :slap:

Thanks

 

[scsmith42]

Re: KD lumber run #2 - QSBL / QSWO / Soft Maple

Jeff, we should be able to mix 8/4 soft maple with 4/4 oak and 8/4 BW without any problems.

 

[bman]

Re: KD lumber run #2 - QSBL / QSWO / Soft Maple

so what i gather is the maple must be 8/4 to get it in this load :icon_thum do you know what the going rate will be for the soft maple

 

[scsmith42]

Re: KD lumber run #2 - QSBL / QSWO / Soft Maple

You are correct.

Each species of wood has a maximum safe drying rate. In a dehumidification kiln, we measure this as the maximum percent of moisture content reduction per day that the wood will safely tolerate.

Most species can be dried more aggressively than the max daily recommendation; however I prefer to be conservative when it comes to customers lumber, and thus I try not to exceed the targeted percentage.

Scott

 

[jeff...]

Re: KD lumber run #2 - QSBL / QSWO / Soft Maple

Jeff, we should be able to mix 8/4 soft maple with 4/4 oak and 8/4 BW without any problems.

Scott I'm tryingto figure out what I can offer in the next load. I would like to be able to do:

4/4 quarter sawn Black Locust
4/4 quarter sawn White Oak
4/4 flat sawn soft maple
8/4 flat sawn soft maple

If I run accross a nice black walnut that's big enough for some wide 8/4 boards I'll toss that in also, but don't have one at the moment.

Is this do-able in one load?

Thanks Man

 

[jeff...]

Re: KD lumber run #2 - QSBL / QSWO / Soft Maple

so what i gather is the maple must be 8/4 to get it in this load :icon_thum do you know what the going rate will be for the soft maple

I havn't figured that out yet. But will post it when I do.

Thanks

 

[jeff...]

Re: KD lumber run #2 - QSBL / QSWO / Soft Maple

here's some pics of one of the quarters of black locust. The color is very accurate in these pictures.

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Thanks

 

[scsmith42]

Re: KD lumber run #2 - QSBL / QSWO / Soft Maple

Jeff, it's probably not a good idea to mix in green 4/4 maple. The relatively slow drying rate could result in mold or other degrade.

If you have some extra and it doesn't matter if it get's ruined, we can include it in the load just to see.

Scott

 

[Touchwood]

Re: KD lumber run #2 - QSBL / QSWO / Soft Maple

Jeff,

I would like 100 BF of the soft maple if it's rich in ambrosia as you say.

Just got blades sharpened so think I'll pass on the black locust.

Take care,

Don

 

[bman]

Re: KD lumber run #2 - QSBL / QSWO / Soft Maple

put me in for 30bf 8/4 soft maple were thinking some time mid sept for pickup right :BangHead: i wish i could get more

thanks
barry

 

[jeff...]

Re: KD lumber run #2 - QSBL / QSWO / Soft Maple

Thanks Guys - I can't promise ambrosia maple but I did see a log out in the yard that appears to be a good like it should yield some, I won't know for sure till I rip it open.

Thanks

 

[scsmith42]

Re: KD lumber run #2 - QSBL / QSWO / Soft Maple

Jeff, all should be doable except for the 4/4 maple. Our targeted daily MC% reduction will be 3% (rate for the white oak), and 4/4 maple should really be dried at 7 - 8% per day.

We can try mixing it in, but the degradation risks are discoloration in the sapwood, or potential ring failure or honeycomb in the heartwood due to slow drying.

If you need to end up with some 4/4 maple out of this load, one option may be to mill and dry some additional 8/4 maple, and then resaw it after drying.

Scott

 

[jeff...]

Re: KD lumber run #2 - QSBL / QSWO / Soft Maple

I've been reading up on Black Locust and they say it's the second hardest native wood in the united states behind Osage Orange. It's also expected to last 70 ~ 80 years with ground contact. No wonder I had to sharpen my band after about every 50 BF and folks were telling me it makes great fence posts. I'm going to hang on to it and take it off the first post in this thread. I think it may become my desk but I haven't decided yet.

Thanks

 

[jeff...]

One of the White oak logs is 10' instead of 8' hope that's ok?

Thanks

 

[JimmyC]

Jeff,

The QSWO in 10 ft. lengths is just fine with me. I store them upright and anything under 12 ft. is good for me.

Jimmy

 

[jeff...]

Jeff,

The QSWO in 10 ft. lengths is just fine with me. I store them upright and anything under 12 ft. is good for me.

Jimmy

Jimmy awesome - thanks

 

[TV]

Jeff,

I had originally planned to make a kitchen island top with hard maple. I haven't worked with soft maple and am curious about the color differences. Is the soft maple still light in color like hard maple? Also, is the grain closed like hard maple? Thanks

tv

 

[jeff...]

I should start on the soft maple in the next few days, when the boards start falling off the mill I'll snap some picks. To try and answer your questions:

Soft maple is light creamy in color and closed grain.
Hard Maple' color is pale brown to pink and also closed grain.

I've seen a lot of people get the two confused. Based on my understanding of maple lumber. Hard maple is the heart wood of a sugar maple tree, the sap wood of sugar maple is considered soft maple. It takes one huge sugar maple to get wide board hard maple because only the heart wood is considered hard maple. While soft maple includes the heart and sap of several different kinds of maple like red, silver, black maples or just the sap wood of sugar maple. This is the reason you mainly see hard maple in short narrow strips like on a bowling ally floor or laminated tops. While maple furniture tends to be soft maple because wider clearer boards are easier to come by. There are so many different kinds of maple trees out there it's real hard to determine what's what. Unless you got DaveO with you to identify them for you :-D

Thanks