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    Upside To Polar Vortex

    I heard on NPR, from a learned fellow in Minnesota, that the frigid weather may help kill off the emerald ash borer.

    The cold snap may also help with a tick problem in Maine.
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    Re: Upside To Polar Vortex

    I've heard the same thing but then we had a similar cold spell a couple of winters ago and they said it would kill the emerald ash borers. They are still around. Might slow them down a little.
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    Had to take a 20" ash down last summer...broke me heart...

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    Re: Upside To Polar Vortex

    Be great if it would kill the beech bark insect too!
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    Re: Upside To Polar Vortex

    Quote Originally Posted by LeftyTom View Post
    I heard on NPR, from a learned fellow in Minnesota, that the frigid weather may help kill off the emerald ash borer.

    The cold snap may also help with a tick problem in Maine.
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    Re: Upside To Polar Vortex

    I also heard one "climate scientist" claim this polar vortex is caused by global warming?????

    Seriously back in November I read an article by a NASA scientist that 2018 was the lowest sunspot activity in recorded history & he predicted the coldest winter in generations.

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    Call me a climate denier if you want, but the key to this is "on record". A 100 year window (even a 1000 year window ) is a miniscule snapshot into the history of the Earth and is no indicator of "climate change". Just my $.02.

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    Re: Upside To Polar Vortex

    Quote Originally Posted by chris_goris View Post
    Call me a climate denier if you want, but the key to this is "on record". A 100 year window (even a 1000 year window ) is a miniscule snapshot into the history of the Earth and is no indicator of "climate change". Just my $.02.
    The US Navy discovered and accepted 'global warming' as fact as far back as the 50's. Even then they had observed and documented it's effects on sea level, ice, sea life, fishing, and migrations. There were articles in Popular Science about it. The US accepted global warming before it accepted that lead water pipes are a stupid idea (sadly, over 100 years after Europe on the latter). All this denier stuff is more recent.

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    My problem with global warming is twofold. 1: That it has been caused by man. If you put the volcano app. on your phone or tablet you will see that there are an very large amount of volcanoes blowing hydrogen sulfide high in the sky at any one time. This is a real problem that has been going on for a long time. It's going to fit in this equation somewhere. 2: Every year near the arctic sea there is a occurrence of an algae collecting in a amount that exceeds the worlds rain forest in the amount of CO2 they absorb from earth's atmosphere. Along with this the super large forest that exist across Europe, Siberia, and North America has the ability to eat all the CO2 that can find. Both of these have got to be an offsetting factor.

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    For many decades, thousands of scientists worldwide have dedicated their lives to studying climate. Trust me, they thought of volcanoes, sun spots, algae, and whatever else seems obvious to Joe Public. And the only reason those things concern Joe Public is because Joe Executive has been flooding the media and politicians with fake data, just as they did with cigarettes and lead pipes.

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    Re: Upside To Polar Vortex

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick M View Post
    For many decades, thousands of scientists worldwide have dedicated their lives to studying climate. Trust me, they thought of volcanoes, sun spots, algae, and whatever else seems obvious to Joe Public. And the only reason those things concern Joe Public is because Joe Executive has been flooding the media and politicians with fake data, just as they did with cigarettes and lead pipes.


    Sorry, not swayed by Joe executive's thoughts. I have my own thoughts as should everyone, but sadly most dont. This has been going on far longer than our current administration has been in office. I simply look a the incredible changes this planet has undergone in its 4.5 Billion years or so and we look at a 100 year temperature profile and get alarmed???. That works out to be .0000000222 percent of the earths age. Hardly a controlled study.
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    All one has to do is fly at 30,000 ft and look out the aircraft window to see how bad it has become. September was always the nicest month in NC, not last year!

    Go to CO2.Earth and look at the 10,000 year curve by scrolling down.

    It beats me how anyone is not alarmed by the facts.
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    Re: Upside To Polar Vortex

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    All one has to do is fly at 30,000 ft and look out the aircraft window to see how bad it has become. September was always the nicest month in NC, not last year!

    Go to CO2.Earth and look at the 10,000 year curve by scrolling down.

    It beats me how anyone is not alarmed by the facts.
    I wasnt aware we monitored the Earths CO2 levels 10,000 years ago..... Interesting. That 10,000 year "curve" (speculation) does bring that percentage of the Earths age WAY up to .00000222 %. That number is so insignificantly small as a sample its impossible to quantify. The part of this equation that really puzzles me is if say tomorrow, all the scientists got all the funding they wanted, because lets face it, this IS about money. What would the checks be written for? .What are the deliverables?. More study?.. If its a scientific fact, that shouldnt be necessary.... Is the entire world ready to give up life as we know it today?. No more fossil fueled vehicles?. The entire human race would perish if that happened. So, Im asking what is it global warmers want EXACTLY?.

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    The part of this equation that really puzzles me is if say tomorrow, all the scientists got all the funding they wanted, because lets face it, this IS about money. What would the checks be written for? .What are the deliverables?. More study?.. If its a scientific fact, that shouldnt be necessary.... Is the entire world ready to give up life as we know it today?. No more fossil fueled vehicles?. The entire human race would perish if that happened. So, Im asking what is it global warmers want EXACTLY?.[/QUOTE]

    Simple...they want a "scientific study" to show how the ice ages ended because of overpopulation and man-made CO2 production.

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