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    Re: Future NCWW Raffle Eligibility

    So if we charged $10/year membership fee w/10,000 members that would be $100,000.
    Or to be more realistic, $10 x 1200 members would be $12,000, or $20 x 1200 = $24,000.
    No fund raisers required!

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    Re: Future NCWW Raffle Eligibility

    After reading your last post Jeremy, I have changed my opinion and will change my vote. When it comes to raffle prizes and winners picking them up, I now believe it would be better to limit ticket sales to members only. There is still the chance of a member in a far off place winning something big, but this way it will help insure some large item won't be shipped to California or Maine, we hope. The small amount of revenue that might be lost by this proposed restriction will hardly be felt, and may also induce members to buy more tickets.
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    Re: Future NCWW Raffle Eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie View Post
    So if we charged $10/year membership fee w/10,000 members that would be $100,000.
    Or to be more realistic, $10 x 1200 members would be $12,000, or $20 x 1200 = $24,000.
    No fund raisers required!
    If everyone wants to discuss this idea then perhaps it's better to take it to a new topic so as not to tie it to the raffle question?

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    Re: Future NCWW Raffle Eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by nn4jw View Post
    If everyone wants to discuss this idea then perhaps it's better to take it to a new topic so as not to tie it to the raffle question?
    Nobody really wants to discuss the topic of dues.



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    Re: Future NCWW Raffle Eligibility

    And why not?????

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    Re: Future NCWW Raffle Eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie View Post
    And why not?????
    501(c)3 may be impacted by the implementation of dues.
    The BoD could tell you more about that.
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    Re: Future NCWW Raffle Eligibility

    I pay dues to professional societies that are tax exempt, i.e., 501(c)6.

    I also pay dues to professional societies that are classified by the IRS as 501(c)3.

    Most of the dues I pay are >$100. When I go to conferences associated with these organizations (a picnic for NCWW), registration fees of several hundred dollars are required. $10 for NCWW won't hurt me too much. I spend much more than that on raffle tickets.

    One question is how many members will be lost by a dues system in order to avoid having complaints about outsiders winning a fund raising raffle prize.

    This thread has an air of familiarity to me some reason.

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    Re: Future NCWW Raffle Eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie View Post
    And why not?????
    I tried it once back in 2015.

    https://www.ncwoodworker.net/forums/...ad.php?t=58238

    https://www.ncwoodworker.net/forums/...ad.php?t=58249
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    Re: Future NCWW Raffle Eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie View Post
    So if we charged $10/year membership fee w/10,000 members that would be $100,000.
    Or to be more realistic, $10 x 1200 members would be $12,000, or $20 x 1200 = $24,000.
    No fund raisers required!
    Charlie I would throw in double if it kept things going smoothly.

    I shoot for donating over a dollar amount I set for myself by teaching and the money goes to the site.

    If we need the money to keep things going, I don't care if a guy from Maryland wins the Sawstop.

    later

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    Re: Future NCWW Raffle Eligibility

    I typically support the site thru multiple ways, but still I would have no problem with $10 or $20 per year dues. I realize some might drop, hopefully only a few. That weighed against the major pain of searching for funds thru donation drives and raffles, dues might be the lesser evil. Dues would not affect our non-profit status.

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    Re: Future NCWW Raffle Eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie View Post
    And why not?????
    The 20-30 regulars that always volunteer and always contribute would be happy to pay. Many, many others would not.

    We can’t survive on even 50 contributing members.

    Look at any poll, any vote, any call to volunteer and you see no more than 50.

    Hundreds will read a thread and ten will post.

    The raffle has been the best method so far.
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    Re: Future NCWW Raffle Eligibility

    In keeping with our organization's high ethical standards, I am a firm believer that raffle sales should be open to all -- our goal is to promote goodwill among all woodworkers even though we remain (and should continue to remain) with a regional membership. With less than 5% of ticket sales going to non-members, there is less than a 5% chance a non-member will win. The fact that non-members have won is purely by chance and we must remember that the beneficiary is still NCWW. I urge us to retain open sales of ticket to all for this fund-raiser. While I did win a nice prize in this raffle, I bought plenty of tickets that helped us raise the largest amount in our history (and that was my real "prize").
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    Re: Future NCWW Raffle Eligibility

    I strongly support anyone buying tickets. I believe it needs to be and I think it clearly states in the rules that it is the winners responsibility to pickup or make arrangements to the pick up of any prizes. I personally think it is healthier for the organization to receive outside funds then to rely solely on our members.

    Let me throw out something that has not come up. As previously established rules anyone in NC, SC, GA, WV, VA, TN and FL is automatically eligible for NCWW membership. That is a large geographic area. Heck the driving time from Raleigh to South FL is greater then driving to many New England states or some states West of the Mississippi. But we also accept members from other states that have direct connections to the area (grew up there, was stationed there in the service, plan to move there in the next 10 years, my folks moved there, etc). So it is very possible tickets are being bought and prizes won by people anywhere in the US or even over seas. So even if we limited to sales to members only the prize may go to someone we do in interact with on a regular basis.
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    Re: Future NCWW Raffle Eligibility

    I am wondering how non-members are able to buy tickets ?

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    Re: Future NCWW Raffle Eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfpacker View Post
    I am wondering how non-members are able to buy tickets ?
    The same exact way members buy them.

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