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    Re: Cutting Gage Workshop - Liberty

    Well its good to hear we have a class that's full. Great.

    From the short list of tools Bill posted I would add a few tools that would be nice to have at your finger tips but not a must or bust thing.

    rasps - half round
    mill file to smooth the brass edges
    card scraper and spoke shave is nice to have

    any drill to chuck small chamfer bits to seat the brass screw heads flush with the brass surfaces.
    small bits to pre drill for brass screws - they are soft and if you plan to use hickory or another hard wood you must drill

    I like to use my drill/driver with a 1/4 drive for a socket 7/16 to push the inserts in. I will bring it along.


    This will take care of the build with a little sharing. I'm thinking of ordering some metal cutting blades for the scroll saw that Bill has and I don't. I use the good old hacksaw and file away.

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    Re: Cutting Gage Workshop - Liberty

    So Dan what size wood stock do we need to start. I haven't seen that mentioned as of yet and I would be interested.
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    Re: Cutting Gage Workshop - Liberty

    Quote Originally Posted by Graywolf View Post
    So Dan what size wood stock do we need to start. I haven't seen that mentioned as of yet and I would be interested.
    Wood stock sizes: I will go out to the shop today and measure and post soon. I just "eyeball" some of the stuff initially and then get tighter as I begin to fit. More to come. See address in next post


    In the mean time here's some progress towards the class:
    Yesterday I pulled out some sugar maple and did some head scratchin' just thinking about the easiest way to get 8 eager marking gage builders working together.


    photo 1 is the block blank. the hole for the bar is done. These are all the same. Notice the adjustment insert and screw in one of the blocks?



    photo 2 the bar cut and edged still needs the wear plate recessed. By having a long bar we can do 4-5 at one time.


    I sent a message up to Bill and he seemed to agree, it would be easiest to build a first gage with one type of wood and do some "production runs" to the parts.

    I will bring some pre-cut maple to make things move along and make sense in a way that the group can move to a couple different work stations to get things done.

    photo 3 shows the wear plate for the block on the right. Needs to be recessed. By doing it this way we can still build a left or right hand block and we can still choose top or bottom for the adjusting knob.





    If you have your heart set on making yours with a special wood bring it along and time permitting you can put it in the rotation.

    Supplies now on hand:
    - brass 36" x 1/2" for the bar(3ea)
    - brass 36 x 1" for the block wear plate(2 ea)
    - screws for the brass to bar and brass to block in brass
    - inserts and knurled knobs for locking and adjusting the gage

    If you would like to see the dimensions for the exact gage, I can send along the FWW mag # if you'd like?

    Dan
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    Re: Cutting Gage Workshop - Liberty

    Quote Originally Posted by Graywolf View Post
    So Dan what size wood stock do we need to start. I haven't seen that mentioned as of yet and I would be interested.
    https://www.finewoodworking.com/2006...-slicing-gauge

    The above address has the gage we are building. The parts list is fairly accurate there with the exception of the wear strip on the bar.

    Richard I am using some sugar maple to pre-cut some of the parts.

    I am working with the notion that there will be 8 builders at the shop on Saturday morning.

    Today is the last day to get the deposit in and commit to the class.


    I will do the class with as few as 6 students but less than that and I will defer to a later date.

    Please feel free to send along any other questions, concerns or ideas you have.

    till then
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    Re: Cutting Gage Workshop - Liberty

    Dan, it's all good, I was just curious about the plan of attack or process, sorry I'm a bit of mental planner. Which is both good and bad. Thanks for the info.
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    Re: Cutting Gage Workshop - Liberty

    I thought I paid already but couldn't find the post. So I am now paid

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    Re: Cutting Gage Workshop - Liberty

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Mathews View Post
    I thought I paid already but couldn't find the post. So I am now paid
    Yes, you had already made your donation.
    I'll gladly tell you how I do something. Just please don't confuse that with the right way to do it, and almost certainly not the only way.


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    Re: Cutting Gage Workshop - Liberty

    I guess I paid for someone that couldn't or didn't! Maybe I'll get double for my money Saturday!!!
    Looking forward to a great day.

    It would be great if we could get everything that we need to bring in one post. Was that done somewhere? Do we need to bring wood or is that covered with the material cost? I saw something about Maple being brought, but wasn't entirely clear if that would cover our clamps.
    Thanks for hosting Bill!


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    Yes, you had already made your donation.

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    Re: Cutting Gage Workshop - Liberty

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Mathews View Post
    I guess I paid for someone that couldn't or didn't! Maybe I'll get double for my money Saturday!!!
    Looking forward to a great day.

    It would be great if we could get everything that we need to bring in one post. Was that done somewhere?#17

    Do we need to bring wood or is that covered with the material cost? #18


    I saw something about Maple being brought, but wasn't entirely clear if that would cover our clamps. I'm lost here

    Thanks for hosting Bill!
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    I'm not sure when you wrote this?? Maybe after a bourbon or two? Clamps ? Not sure about clamps?

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    see response #16 and add some small screw drivers that will fit in a slot for a #2-5 head if you have them

    small drill bits if you have some but I will bring along a handful. If you don't like working on small details with a battery powered drill, you might want to bring your egg-beater hand drill.

    If you look at the picture below and think of the task you figure out its fitting 2 pieces of wood together, installing an insert for the thumbscrew, cutting the slot for the brass on the block, cutting the shape of the block, cutting the bar to length and width, cutting or routing the channel for the brass strip on the bar, fitting the brass on the end of the bar to hold the exacto blade.

    Then.. lots of drilling and setting screws carefully. Brass in hard maple is a delicate marriage.Then lots of file work to get the brass in line with the wooden parts on the block and the small piece at the end of the bar to hold the knife.

    Now that's the road map. If you think of a tool other than the aforementioned, bring it along to make your time at the bench in Liberty more fun.

    Hope this helps
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    Re: Cutting Gage Workshop - Liberty

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Mathews View Post
    I guess I paid for someone that couldn't or didn't! Maybe I'll get double for my money Saturday!!!
    Looking forward to a great day.

    It would be great if we could get everything that we need to bring in one post. Was that done somewhere? Do we need to bring wood or is that covered with the material cost? I saw something about Maple being brought, but wasn't entirely clear if that would cover our clamps.
    Thanks for hosting Bill!
    Here's the upside, Michael. You've already made your donation for the scrollsaw inlay workshop in July.

    As you've already seen, Dan posted some more info above. Also, I'll send out a PM to everyone around mid week w/ directions and any other last minute info. If there are any remaining questions we can use that PM w/ "reply to all" to keep everyone in the loop.

    I'm looking forward to seeing everyone Saturday. This promises to be a great workshop.
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    Re: Cutting Gage Workshop - Liberty

    What time is the workshop planned to start? I don't recall seeing the schedule in this thread.

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    Re: Cutting Gage Workshop - Liberty

    Quote Originally Posted by bowman View Post
    What time is the workshop planned to start? I don't recall seeing the schedule in this thread.
    I'll be sending out a PM shortly w/ all the information.
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    Re: Cutting Gage Workshop - Liberty

    I'd like to thank Dan for putting on a fun workshop today. I for one had a really good time. I hope you continue to put on more workshops in the future. And as always thank you Bill for hosting these workshops.
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    Re: Cutting Gage Workshop - Liberty

    Today was my first time at Bill's, and it exceeded the stories that prefaced the workshop. The group was amazing, and Dan was outstanding with his teaching skills. Thanks again, i hope it is not the last time I get to go to Bills.

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    Re: Cutting Gage Workshop - Liberty

    Let me third the sentiments on the workshop.

    Dan, thanks for the organization that allowed all to complete their gauge - though in my hurry to finish I took off a little too much from my bar. I see racing stripes to increase the width in my future! Always impressed with how much knowledge you have to share.

    Bill, thanks for the use of your shop! I very nice space indeed.

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