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    Edge plywood or not?

    I'm going to use a single piece of 6' x 2' x 3/4" plywood for the seat/lid of the shoe storage I am building.

    There will be a 3"-4" lip at the back and sides and the cut out pieces will form the two lids, which will have piano hinges along the back edge.

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    It will be in an alcove so only the front edge of the top will be visible, which I plan to finish with a strip of hardwood.

    However, would you also recommend finishing the edges of the cut outs of the top face and the sides of the lids with hardwood, to hide the edge of the plywood?

    Or is that overkill for something which will only be seen when the lids are up?
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    Re: Edge plywood or not?

    Maybe some iron on edge banding for a clean look

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    Re: Edge plywood or not?

    absolutely finish all sides, it seals the edges. edge banding iron on tape, is fine. Fastcap makes peel and stick, if you dont want to bother with ironing.

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    Re: Edge plywood or not?

    I've always used hardwood, primarily because I think it looks great, and secondly I've only just now became aware of iron on edge banding. I'll probably continue to band all edges with hardwood.
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    Re: Edge plywood or not?

    If I absolutely have to then hardwood would be my preferred option.

    I've used the iron on stuff in the past and in my experience, it never holds up well - especially for something which is likely to be knocked about by shoes, etc.

    I was just being lazy and trying to get away with just having the cut edges of the plywood ...

    Ideally I would like to glue up some lengths of hardwood and do it properly with solid wood lids, but I don't have a jointer or planer, so have to resort to this.

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    Re: Edge plywood or not?

    From our earlier discussion months ago this is a "drop zone" for shoes, umbrellas, jackets etc. in the mudroom alcove. Correct?

    I like solid hardwood edge banding but in this case maybe it's overkill for a utilitarian box that no one is gonna notice or inspect close up. If you get high quality plywood similar to baltic birch you'll have nice edges with no voids so it's not a structural or visible disaster.

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    Re: Edge plywood or not?

    Correct.

    I've just checked some of the good ply I have in the workshop and the edges are very clean with no voids.

    As it's going to be painted, I suppose I could get away with it.

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    Re: Edge plywood or not?

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    Correct.

    I've just checked some of the good ply I have in the workshop and the edges are very clean with no voids.

    As it's going to be painted, I suppose I could get away with it.
    If the plywood does turn out to have a few voids, I have used Durham's Rock Hard Putty as an overall skim coat over plywood edges.

    Built kitchen stools for all my daughters using 3/4" plywood, skimmed all exposed edges of the ply with Durham's, sanded smooth, primed then painted and they have all held up fine with all of the abuse.

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    Re: Edge plywood or not?

    Thanks all.

    At least I have some options.

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    Re: Edge plywood or not?

    Paul,
    I have a jointer and planer and would be glad to mill the hardwood for you.

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    Re: Edge plywood or not?

    That's very generous of you Charlie, thank you.

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    Re: Edge plywood or not?

    Definitely edge band the sides, otherwise it's likely that the veneer will eventually chip off.

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    Re: Edge plywood or not?

    There is nothing to prevent using wood strips thicker than veneer for banding the edge. I routinely cut 3/4" strips on the table saw from 3/4" stock boards to band the edges of plywood panels. Use a good glue and it will work well.

    One advantage to a thicker band on the front is that you can round it over on top to make it more comfortable to sit on. Advantage to a thicker band on the back is that it gives a better structure to screw the piano hinges to. I have found that screws too close to the edge of ply spell disaster in the long run.

    As a rule, I cover all exposed edges of ply. If its going to be painted, nothing wrong with using SYP pine.

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    Re: Edge plywood or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canuck View Post
    If the plywood does turn out to have a few voids, I have used Durham's Rock Hard Putty as an overall skim coat over plywood edges.

    Built kitchen stools for all my daughters using 3/4" plywood, skimmed all exposed edges of the ply with Durham's, sanded smooth, primed then painted and they have all held up fine with all of the abuse.

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    Re: Edge plywood or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gofor View Post
    One advantage to a thicker band on the front is that you can round it over on top to make it more comfortable to sit on. Advantage to a thicker band on the back is that it gives a better structure to screw the piano hinges to. I have found that screws too close to the edge of ply spell disaster in the long run.
    I was already planning to use a strip of wood on the front for that reason, and to give it a nicer profile.

    Good point on the hinge screws - I hadn't considered that.

    I'll likely use poplar as it's not that much more than pine but is harder wearing.

    Now that I'm going to edge band, I won't bother using a single sheet of ply - I'll also use poplar for the back and sides of the top.
    It's less work than edge banding the ply there.

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