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    Re: Worksharp 3000 replacement paper

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    You must be using it a lot. IIRC there were quite a few sandpaper disks included in that deal.

    Anyway, you have the address, let me know if/when you want to stop by. Bring something that needs to be sharpened and we can play with the Grizzly.
    I went through a lot of the lower grits trying to adjust the angle of attack on the plate (skew adjustment). It was good for chisels but for some reason was off a little for anything over 1/2". I was slamming some cheap 1" chisels in there to try to get it completely square but burned through a LOT of the paper in the last week playing with that

    I'm mainly looking at the wheels for doing jointer blades, etc. I'll hit you up sometime after the new year and swing by. Thanks, Mark!

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    Re: Worksharp 3000 replacement paper

    Bill, I've been looking at the DMT plates. You don't give your opinion of them. The ones Rob mentions are cheaper, but it doesn't look like they attach to the glass, so do they stay as flat and not slip? I've been using the leather honing wheel with green (chromium oxide) paste. It really polishes the edge well, but you only have that very fine grit. I'd love to be able to compare all these options without having to buy all of them.

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    Re: Worksharp 3000 replacement paper

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Wallace View Post
    Bill, I've been looking at the DMT plates. You don't give your opinion of them. The ones Rob mentions are cheaper, but it doesn't look like they attach to the glass, so do they stay as flat and not slip? I've been using the leather honing wheel with green (chromium oxide) paste. It really polishes the edge well, but you only have that very fine grit. I'd love to be able to compare all these options without having to buy all of them.
    Hey Jim. I bought 2 of the disks mentioned last night for 15 bucks each. Once I try them out, I'll update the thread. I did read in the reviews on those (on amazon) that people are saying they just put them on top of the glass disk (or even underneath) with no spray adhesive and the lock nob is enough to hold them in place... I still find that odd - especially when they're under the glass and they don't sag but I'm going to test it out and see because that would be very convenient if that was the case.

    Update soon!

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    Re: Worksharp 3000 replacement paper

    I have built a couple of versions (one stumpy’s specs, one modified to my specs).

    Although there is a minute difference between the 80/120, the 400/1000, and the 3600/6000 honing discs, there is an observable difference that I feel must be taken into account during the sharpening process. The Stumpy Nubs platform does not take that into account so does not work for ME.
    I have also used the MDF and compound with success but I prefer the glass wheels and sandpaper. I have no experience with the DMT kits, but I am looking forward to trying that sometime in the future.
    I do have the Wide Blade attachment and the Tool Bar attachments. The Wide Blade attachment uses 4 set screws to level the table and adjust for differing disc/paper thicknesses. I like it.
    The Tool Bar attachment allows me to use Tormek jigs for sharpening my turning tools. I also like it, but having no experience with the Tormek, might like it better.
    Just my 2¢ worth.

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    Re: Worksharp 3000 replacement paper

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    You should also look online for diamond disks of the same size. I have found several finer grits at reasonable prices that work very well. The only disadvantage with not using WS discs is that when you have other brands facing downward on the glass base you can't see the grinder in action. I'm usually pulling my chisel our every couple of seconds anyway to see what's happening with it and to allow it to cool.
    I got a couple disks last week and they work great. 80 grit was nice because I can basically grind in seconds with it then move up the grits as normal. well worth 15 bucks each.

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    Re: Worksharp 3000 replacement paper

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    I have built a couple of versions (one stumpy’s specs, one modified to my specs).
    Bruce - any plans or drawings of the modifications you made to the Stumpy's jig? based on your experience it sounds like it would need to have some adjustable leveling to be able to accommodate for the different thickness of sanding papers. Did you make any other adjustments/enhancements?

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    Re: Worksharp 3000 replacement paper

    I do have one issue with the machine. It's out of square by a nominal amount (larger as the blade width increases). I've adjusted to skew adjustment over and over but can't seem to get it perfectly square. Do any of you have any "trick" to align it easily without having to completely sharpen over and over again to find that you've gone too far or not enough? The adjustment is definitely not intuitive and there is a TON of slop in it. It's driving me insane lol.

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    Re: Worksharp 3000 replacement paper

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    I gave up on Stumpy’s version. I am going to try to attach my version as a sketch up file but just in case that doesn’t work here is what it looks like.

    It is more of a storage stand than an alternative to the wide blade attachment or the tool bar attachment while Stumpy’s tried to be both.
    A check the woodworking tool sites (Woodcraft, Klingspor’s, Highland, Rockler, and Work Sharp itself) and it appears that the tool bar attachment is not available while the wide blade attachment is still available. Interesting since the Woodcraft details for the not available tool bar attachment says “The folks at Work Sharp responded to that criticism with the Wide Blade Attachment (#149512) and now have created a tool bar that attaches to the side of any existing 3000 allowing you to use Tormek® and Jet® Wet Sharp Jigs to sharpen turning tools.” I happen to love it for that purpose.
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    I pretty much quit using the sharpening port because of the out of square grinding. It doesn’t happen on all of the chisels, but the ones that is does happen on, it does it consistently. I think it has more to do with the chisel profile. That being said, once I get the wide blade attachment adjusted, and use it with a honing guide (I prefer the Veritas but also use a couple of cheap ones for different grinds), then I get a square, repeatable SHARP edge for both plane blades and chisels.
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    Re: Worksharp 3000 replacement paper

    Trying to attach the sketchup file.

    Yay! I think it worked.
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    Re: Worksharp 3000 replacement paper

    Thanks for the skp Bruce. I will get my WS3000 delivered this week and was already thinking of how to store/employ it. This looks like a great idea.

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    Re: Worksharp 3000 replacement paper

    Bruce, I like your design for the Worksharp 3000 station. Looks very functional. I wonder how difficult it would be to have this attached to the wall to save counter-top space. May have to build one for mine and then maybe i'd use it more often. Keeping it tucked away and all the discs in a drawer I seem to forget I have it. lol

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    Re: Worksharp 3000 replacement paper

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Knight View Post
    Bruce, I like your design for the Worksharp 3000 station. Looks very functional. I wonder how difficult it would be to have this attached to the wall to save counter-top space. May have to build one for mine and then maybe i'd use it more often. Keeping it tucked away and all the discs in a drawer I seem to forget I have it. lol
    I put mine on the wall. Its a close copy of the Stumpy idea and it works well for me. Take a look at Stumpy's set up and Bruce's illustration and I think you will have a good station that doesn't take up a bunch of space. All of my friends who have the WS just sitting under a table somewhere never get it out cause "bending over and pulling it out" is such a hassle. Tell you something?


    I like the flat grind and the WS is great for me. Having it on the wall with 10 different discs and grits makes it quick and easy. I use it because it is simple. I think I will look into these diamond plated disks. I have the flat DMT plates and I use them for most everything. My water stones and Norton stuff just gather dust for the most part. I am not dealing with water considering this winter and the temps.

    If you have a WS, build a small station. You won't regret it. If you do its not a big investment.

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    Re: Worksharp 3000 replacement paper

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    Tagging on to this thread if that's OK . . . wondering if anyone has built a case for the WS3000 that would provide a surface to use the top of the glass plates using a rolling honing guide? This would enable full use of the sanding surface rather than just the small slice when using the traditional under-wheel sharpening. I've seen a couple designs online and was thinking of building one. Anyone build one and care to share experience and your design?

    Rick
    Saw your question about the WS workstation. I took the Stumpy idea and modified a bit. I use it a bunch. For years I fooled with the water stones and it just finally wore me out. The WS is quick and easy and you can really adapt it with a little thought.



    The pine work surface is pretty close to being "in-plane" with the spinning disk. I don't fuss with it much as I free hand about 90 percent of the time.

    When I want to get anal, this tool below is tough to beat.



    with the blade, chisel locked in place with the front cross bar with the knob on top you move on to the rear knob. This minutely changes the angle of the grind. It is so easy and quick shake my head for not finding this sooner.

    Some will wonder? How does he get a nice straight 90 degree edge? I just shim the front edge of the tool holder with a 5x8 card or something thinner. It doesn't take much. I use lots of mdf discs and glue all kinds of paper to them. Its not rocket science you just tweak it and go.

    One note. The original disc hold down screw only engages a couple of threads when you use glass discs. The mdf is a little thicker so I made a new knob with a longer screw. Much better and easier to use.

    Don't know about you but if my sharpening station is not simple and easy to get to and get away quickly, I am not using it and I find I push dull chisels longer than I should. With the WS near by and no need for water and flattening stones and wiping up I use it all the time and go right back to work.





    A bit long winded but hopefully you get the idea. More photos in the album in the Gallery.

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