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    Re: Hardwood supplier that will ship

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    Mann Tool. A few examples of their out of line pricing per bf would be helpful (you pick up) for comparison. Why would you have them ship it to you only 20 miles away instead of picking it up?

    Here's the pricing for The Hardwood Store, also for comparison, if your gonna make a road trip. Added their shipping page, but Lexington, SC delivery pricing may be a kick in the teeth.

    https://hardwoodstore.com/lumber-prices
    I might not have been clear. Want I meant was Mann Tools price was about 25% higher per board foot than what I was buying online and having it shipped with the cost of shipping added to the price per board foot.

    I plan to go back over there since they have since expanded their hardwood section. Like most anywhere, us included, if we buy enough parts and/or equipment, the manufacturer give us free freight.

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    Re: Hardwood supplier that will ship

    I might not have been clear. Want I meant was Mann Tools price was about 25% higher per board foot than what I was buying online and having it shipped with the cost of shipping added to the price per board foot.
    You weren't clear, and still aren't, now you have me confused too.

    Mann Tools is 25% higher/bf. Are they shipping 20 miles to you too so the price skyrockets?

    Online supplier is 25% less, but crappy warped wood, +shipping?

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    Re: Hardwood supplier that will ship

    Jeff, I understand your confusion.

    The way I understand the OP is that overall cost is lower when buying online, even when shipping charges are accounted for, than when buying at Mann Tools. Quality from his online purchases has not met expectations.
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    Re: Hardwood supplier that will ship

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry W View Post
    Jeff, I understand your confusion.

    The way I understand the OP is that overall cost is lower when buying online, even when shipping charges are accounted for, than when buying at Mann Tools. Quality from his online purchases has not met expectations.

    That's what I was trying to say.

    An example about 6 - 8 months ago, I purchased some 8/4 walnut online for $10/bf, nice clear wood. Happened to need a piece of baltic birch plywood for a jig so I went to Mann Tool where I buy it from. They have a lot of huge slabs and I never really paid attention to their hardwoods but I happened to spot a piece of 8/4 walnut. It had a large knot dead center and if, I remember correctly was marked $16.40/bf. Shipping on 5 bf was around $20, so that $4/bf. $10 + $4 is less than $16.40/bf + sales tax.

    Hope this helps.

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    Re: Hardwood supplier that will ship

    I moved to SE GA and get lumber from Wall still. I have had them ship it to me as well. No issues, got what I wanted. Everything comes out the thickness I was looking for. I can't say good enough about them. Additionally, Scott from Quartersawnoak.com and Chris from SR Hardwoods are great to deal with and I have purchased from both. I can speak nothing but good about these three. I hear good things about many others but cannot provide first hand knowledge.

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    I think they have a good reputation but not sure if it applies to mail order

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    Re: Hardwood supplier that will ship

    Quote Originally Posted by SubGuy View Post
    I moved to SE GA and get lumber from Wall still. I have had them ship it to me as well. No issues, got what I wanted. Everything comes out the thickness I was looking for. I can't say good enough about them. Additionally, Scott from Quartersawnoak.com and Chris from SR Hardwoods are great to deal with and I have purchased from both. I can speak nothing but good about these three. I hear good things about many others but cannot provide first hand knowledge.

    Folks that sell and ship online are your eyes. A simple test/question would be, would I buy that piece of wood? If not, maybe it should be sold for firewood.

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    Re: Hardwood supplier that will ship

    Hi Eddie,

    First, the folks in NC are spoiled with hardwood suppliers--those of us in SC, not so much!

    I have made a couple trips to The Sawmill Ltd in Iron Station, NC--you might contact Kyle and see if he will ship. He has supplied excellent boards and is generous on the supplied board footage with very fair prices. https://www.sawmillnc.com/

    Have you tried Woodford Plywood or Carolina Custom Sawmill?

    Another option may be Shuman Owens supply in West Columbia. I need cypress for a porch several years ago and I seem to recall they were willing to order it for me.

    And I agree that Mann Tool prices seem to be a bit high.

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    Re: Hardwood supplier that will ship

    Ok, gotcha.

    Without mentioning the company name, I have been buying hardwoods from a place recommended by the Wood Whispering Guy. Its been hit and miss with the quality I get since i can't pick out the boards myself and am at the mercy of what they send me.
    I can't make anything from sawdust so I'm looking for a supplier that ships and doesn't ship junk.
    There are lots of online suppliers but it sounds like your experiences have been hit or miss with cupping, warping, etc. In any event you won't have the advantage of hand picking your wood before you buy it and save money on shipping as a bonus for twisted wood!

    Here's a quality supplier and their shipping policy. Wood is normally shipped by weight via UPS, not by board feet, because most woods can have big differences in weight/unit volume (oak vs basswood).

    http://www.hearnehardwoods.com/hardw...der.html#shipp

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    Re: Hardwood supplier that will ship

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    Ok, gotcha.





    There are lots of online suppliers but it sounds like your experiences have been hit or miss with cupping, warping, etc. In any event you won't have the advantage of hand picking your wood before you buy it and save money on shipping as a bonus for twisted wood!

    Here's a quality supplier and their shipping policy. Wood is normally shipped by weight via UPS, not by board feet, because most woods can have big differences in weight/unit volume (oak vs basswood).

    http://www.hearnehardwoods.com/hardw...der.html#shipp
    Thanks for the leads, Jeff.

    I don't think getting twisted boards was intentional. It just not feasible to ship it back. Sometimes folks get in a hurray and don't check before they package it for shipping.

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    Re: Hardwood supplier that will ship

    Lots of great info in this thread. I too can vouch for the great products and services from The Hardwood Store and Wall Lumber (and since I'm a competitor that tells you a lot about their quality).

    Considering your proximity to The Hardwood Store, Wall Lumber, and West Penn Hardwoods, if you need any significant quantity at all I think that you would enjoy making a visit in person as opposed to having the lumber shipped. You can take your time at the facility and select the boards that best fit your project and budget, and also visit other great woodworking support businesses such as Klingspor's, Woodcraft, etc.

    Kyle at the Sawmill in Iron Station has a great selection of slabs and is also a super nice fellow.

    We ship quartersawn oak and sycamore lumber all over the US, and there are a lot of factors that impact the shipping costs. Lumber in excess of 11' long has a surcharge, truck (LTL) shipments to residential locations have a surcharge (and any board shipped longer than 8' either has a heavy UPS Parcel Surcharge, or it has to ship via LTL which is also expensive).

    We frequently have customers drive up that are 3 - 4 hours away, and they will spend a couple of hours in the inventory room selecting their lumber.

    If you opt to make a road trip, you can also reach out to other NCWW members to see if they would like to meet up at your destination and grab lunch and share some woodworking stories.

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    Re: Hardwood supplier that will ship

    Steve Wall Lumber is about a 3 1/2 hr drive from you.

    There are also some suppliers in the Charleston area.

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    Re: Hardwood supplier that will ship

    Eddie,

    I live in Lexington, SC too. I have been renovating an old house for the last few years and using existing stock when I needed some hardwood so I haven't bought any. But there used to be a guy selling out of tent buildings south of the airport area that was not bad. He planes everything and sorts out figured material he charges more for. But prices are decent, nothing like Mann. I agree with you about them. It's nice we have something in town but their wood inventory is tiny and their prices are not. I'm not sure if he is still around. He was only open half days in the morning during the week last time I bought from him.

    I've driven up into NC several times for wood. I've never been disappointed. I have a lunchbox planner and small jointer and buy rough when I can.

    I have difficulty getting 3/4 or 13/16 from most rough sawn wood too, however, if I flatten one face first. Some of my issue is technique but some is the boards. I often just plane it to the needed thickness and deal with the fact it isn't totally flat. Sometimes I flatten it and when I then plane the other side it shifts too. It's frustrating at times but I blame it on the quality of the wood. Could be at least as much me. Dealing with lack of absolute flatness and straightness is part of woodworking in my shop.

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    Re: Hardwood supplier that will ship

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    Eddie,

    I live in Lexington, SC too. I have been renovating an old house for the last few years and using existing stock when I needed some hardwood so I haven't bought any. But there used to be a guy selling out of tent buildings south of the airport area that was not bad. He planes everything and sorts out figured material he charges more for. But prices are decent, nothing like Mann. I agree with you about them. It's nice we have something in town but their wood inventory is tiny and their prices are not. I'm not sure if he is still around. He was only open half days in the morning during the week last time I bought from him.

    I've driven up into NC several times for wood. I've never been disappointed. I have a lunchbox planner and small jointer and buy rough when I can.

    I have difficulty getting 3/4 or 13/16 from most rough sawn wood too, however, if I flatten one face first. Some of my issue is technique but some is the boards. I often just plane it to the needed thickness and deal with the fact it isn't totally flat. Sometimes I flatten it and when I then plane the other side it shifts too. It's frustrating at times but I blame it on the quality of the wood. Could be at least as much me. Dealing with lack of absolute flatness and straightness is part of woodworking in my shop.

    Jim

    Hi Jim,

    I can usually deal with defects, but a twisted board is trouble for me. You shouldn't have to start with a 5/4 or 6/4 board to get to 3/4. Ever how much twist is in it, is how much has to come out because its on both sides.

    So far, all my projects have been small and don't require much more that 48" in length. I definitely would like to go in person and one day I probably will, but a 6 hour round trip and $40-50 in gas, having it shipped is more economical.

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