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    Sheet rock fasteners

    Need to put up a Small shelf 12" x 6" in closet for an Iron. No studs, small stretch between door frame and corner. Bought those plastic Zip fasteners, you supposedly Screw into sheetrock, then use a number 8 screw into plastic fastener. Any advice, suggestions?

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    Re: Sheet rock fasteners

    Glue some wood to the wall. This will give you something solid to attach the shelf to. Much better than drywall fasteners.


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    Re: Sheet rock fasteners

    I always prefer this type. Its called a toggler. They fold up to go through the hole, then spread when you put the screw in. Seem to give better purchase versus some of the other types.
    I'll gladly tell you how I do something. Just please don't confuse that with the right way to do it, and almost certainly not the only way.


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    Re: Sheet rock fasteners

    Quote Originally Posted by Ptofimpact View Post
    Need to put up a Small shelf 12" x 6" in closet for an Iron. No studs, small stretch between door frame and corner. Bought those plastic Zip fasteners, you supposedly Screw into sheetrock, then use a number 8 screw into plastic fastener. Any advice, suggestions?
    Are these the type that you bought? The nylon ones have "wings" that expand on the inside of the drywall; these have a 15-20 lb load capacity. The ones Bill uses are rated at 36 lbs.

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    Re: Sheet rock fasteners

    Phil, who's advice I always trust, advised me to use these "Toggler" toggle bolts to attach some grab bars to a wall with no studs available.

    https://smile.amazon.com/12-TOGGLER-...words=togglers

    They work great. Available in other sizes.
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    Re: Sheet rock fasteners

    Is it just for the iron? Maybe a pound or two? Any possibility of heavier items in the future? If not, then the plastic fasteners are good, easier to install than the toggle type. And more forgiving if you ever need to take them out.

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    Re: Sheet rock fasteners

    check out "wing-its" at your local Home Depot.

    Bottom line anything can rip out drywall.

    If you want something more permanent span a 2x3 to catch 2 studs and must make the shelf 16" instead of 12".

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    Re: Sheet rock fasteners

    Also from Toggler, I have used these screw-ins with great success for shelves. http://a.co/eyatwmq

    It is a real time (and accuracy) bonus that you don't need to pre-drill.

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    Re: Sheet rock fasteners

    It appears the term Toggler is widely used for many different wall attachment devices.

    Many of the all plastic devices are probably fine for a lot of light applications.

    For any application that requires a questionable or heavy load I always uses the type of toggle that Hilti first brought to the market

    I have used these to mount literally hundreds of tv mounts and they are virtually the commercial standard now.

    They are available from many manufactures and I have never had a significant problem with any - some of the cheaper ones are not always tapped as well as they should be, so there is some waste with them. If I had a large project, I would get the real ones, Hilti

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    Re: Sheet rock fasteners

    One thing to consider is the thickness of the drywall. The screw in type hold well in 5/8 or 3/4, but not as well in 1/2". As for repairing the hole in the future, should you decide to remove the shelf, the screw in type aren't too much better than a regular toggle bolt. I have used both in places I have lived in and left, requiring repair of the holes.

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    Re: Sheet rock fasteners

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil S View Post
    It appears the term Toggler is widely used for many different wall attachment devices.

    Many of the all plastic devices are probably fine for a lot of light applications.

    For any application that requires a questionable or heavy load I always uses the type of toggle that Hilti first brought to the market

    I have used these to mount literally hundreds of tv mounts and they are virtually the commercial standard now.

    They are available from many manufactures and I have never had a significant problem with any - some of the cheaper ones are not always tapped as well as they should be, so there is some waste with them. If I had a large project, I would get the real ones, Hilti

    Toggler is just the brand name, so anything they design and market under that name will carry the Toggler label. But they do produce some very fine hollow wall anchoring solutions and I have used them quite a bit over the years, as well as common alternatives, but theirs often excel where you need to support more substantial loads.

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    Re: Sheet rock fasteners

    Thanks to all the great advice, the shelf is only for an iron, a few pounds, using 1/2 Baltic Birch ply fpr 12 x 6 shelf. Cannot fid any studs, as this is a short stretch of wall...between door frame and corner, just a bit ovr 12" wide.
    Have bought those Zip screw in fasteners.....was wondering about those, can I use a drill on slow to screw in??

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    Re: Sheet rock fasteners

    Quote Originally Posted by Ptofimpact View Post
    Thanks to all the great advice, the shelf is only for an iron, a few pounds, using 1/2 Baltic Birch ply fpr 12 x 6 shelf. Cannot fid any studs, as this is a short stretch of wall...between door frame and corner, just a bit ovr 12" wide.
    Have bought those Zip screw in fasteners.....was wondering about those, can I use a drill on slow to screw in??
    Yes, you just screw the plastic part into the wall as if it was a self tapping screw.

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    Re: Sheet rock fasteners

    Thanks again to all, for this little shelf the Zip fasteners worked fine, again, only holding an Iron, but also learned about other fasteners.

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