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    Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    For my first project, I'm building a new set of steps in the garage for the back door.


    Just wondering what the general consensus is on treads and risers and how they are assembled.


    Do you prefer the riser on the stringer, like so?



    Or on the tread, like so?



    If you have a preference, what are your reasons?
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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    my preference is to have the riser on the tread. With the tread on the stringer, you have more surface area for the tread to connect to, reducing (in theory) squeaks, looseness. Just my $0.02.

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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    Having built several hundred staircases the first example comes closer to how I have set up steps. Your rendering shows no overhang of the tread over the riser, that must be an inch to an inch and an eight. I going to assume you are asking about an order of assembly and not the max, and min of rise to run.
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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    Yes, the renders are not to scale or accurate, just intended to depict the two options.

    Interesting that the first two responses are opposite

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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    I withdraw my response, as I yield to Master Graywolf!

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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    The second option has the added benefit of helping to mechanically lock the rear of each tread into place and should reduce stresses on the fasteners when someone steps on the unsupported leading edge of each step which should also help to reduce the tendency for fasteners to loosen over time.

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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    That's a good point on "locking" the tread down, but regarding this comment "the unsupported leading edge of each step", I don't plan on doing an overhang.

    It's not necessary when the tread is wide enough, and not a requirement.

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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    I guess mine are "riser on stringer" in our garage but I had to scratch my head and dig out the terms amidst the cobwebs.







    The rise is 21.5" with a run of 31.5". This calculator is nifty and when I put in our rise and "flush" stringer mount it's a pretty good match to our actual steps.

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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    You don't actually have any risers - your steps are open where the riser would be.

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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    You're correct. Riser boards aren't needed on garage steps but they could be added for a purely cosmetic appearance. Your choice.

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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    The steps currently look like this (I had already removed some of the treads when I took the photo).


    I plan to add a 4th step so it is level with the floor inside the house - I don't like stepping over the threshold and immediately down a step - my daughter finds it awkward.
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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    I agree about adding a 4th step. Ours is flush with the threshold so there's no ankle twisting coming out the door and stepping down or tripping if you drag your feet coming inside.

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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    I don't know your space constraints, or how much you are willing to rebuild this ... but I always prefer what I call a 'landing' in front of a door, rather than an immediate step. This is a platform of a few feet at least that is level with the entry door. It does not change the stairs, but adds to the overall length (the 'protrusion' length into the garage).

    Looks to me like you have the room for it.
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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    Hmm, that's a decent idea Henry.
    I may have to rejig the design a little.

    Just finished mocking up the stringer template with a test fit of the boards - all seems to work well.



    The top step of the stringer is slightly narrower than the others as the stringer is flush with the ledger board, so the very first step spans the ledger and stringer - the overall width of the step is still the same as the others at 11".

    I had to work out the sizes manually, rather than using a calculator, due to the odd size of the top step.
    I now know all there is to know about NC stairs code

    Edit: I am also planning to do the steps full width so Henry's suggestion makes even more sense now. Back to the drawing board ...
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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    I think the landing and using the full width there will benefit you quite a bit and certainly will make it easier to get in and out the door, especially if you're carrying things. Sounds like you're on the right path.

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