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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    No going back now.
    Removed the original steps and the baseboard.



    I've updated the plans to incorporate a 2'6" landing at the top - thanks for the suggestion Henry, that was the missing piece of the design I was searching for.

    Off to HD tomorrow for some lumber and hopefully it will be done in a few days (it would be sooner but my daughter comes first).
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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    Paul,
    If it were mine, I would put a landing and stairs full width of the opening. A good place for dirty shoes, etc.
    Just my 2 cents.

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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    That's exactly what I plan to do Charlie.

    I always wanted the steps full width when I first saw the space, I just hadn't thought about the landing until Henry mentioned it.

    I'll update the thread with images as the build progresses.

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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    Paul, your on the right track with this project, good luck and looking forward to seeing pics of the progress.
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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    I like the new, improved, and more functional plan. Hmmm, how much would Toll Bros have hit you up for that instead of your retrofit?

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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    I dread to think Jeff.

    Regardless, I know I'll do a better job than the contractors they use anyway - the quality of work is dreadful.

    All of the wood I removed from the original steps (treads, spindles, handrail) was split due to them just firing 4" nails in with a high powered nail gun - I doubt they would have lasted a year.

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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    Stage 1 is almost complete - it took me longer to pick out some half decent wood than it did to build this



    I still have to add some studs for the back ledger board for vertical support and then the joists but that's it as far as the 'landing' frame goes.

    The stringer will be flush with the top of the landing, so it will effectively be another 11" wider.

    I *may* have slightly over engineered it, but I had some spare scraps of wood so it didn't really cost anything to put some extra studs in.
    I'd rather it was too strong than not strong enough, and as it's now full width, it's not unreasonable to expect three people to be stood on it at once.
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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    over built but that's ok. I generally over build too. too much is way better than too little.
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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    It's a darn site sturdier than the thing I ripped out

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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    This is how the stringers were attached to the ledger.
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    Every spindle was split at the top, bottom, or both.
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    I doubt the steps would have lasted 6 months.

    I would be embarrased to put out something as shoddy as this.

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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    All these guys care about is the bottom dollar. The faster the job completes, the quicker they move on to the next job. If something needs warranty work, then they will come back and address it, if the customer calls to complain about the problem. No calls, no return visits.

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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    Quote Originally Posted by bowman View Post
    ...If something needs warranty work, then they will come back and address it, if the customer calls to complain about the problem. No calls, no return visits....
    I have a colleague who has been calling his builder for warranty work - for about 2 years now. Plenty of return visits, but few issues actually addressed.
    My 60's built home looks better and better to me all the time - it has it's own issues, but at age 50 it is holding up quite well.
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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    Finished the frame last night (does anyone else like working after midnight?).




    Just cut my very first stringer - not bad for a first attempt.


    What made it more difficult than a regular set of stairs is the floor slopes away from the rear of the stringer, 1" in two directions.
    So I had to custom fit the bottom edge of the stringer with a compound angle to ensure it is flush with the floor.

    Four more stringers to go ...
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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    It's looking good but I have to question what in the world do you plan on carrying down those steps? Or what record weight holding person is going to be traveling up and down them?

    I mean absolutely no disrespect of a project seemingly going well but I strongly feel you are waaaaaay over thinking what you're doing and underestimating simple design and structural integrity.
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    Re: Risers and treads - how do you do you prefer to do them?

    I sometimes work strange hours, just not as much anymore. What your dealing with as far as fitting your stringers to the floor is rather common. Especially in a garage. It looks like your doing a fine job. One thing for certain, it aint going anywhere.
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