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    Interior Shop walls, setback. :( suggestions?

    So I had planned to use the 1x8's below from pine trees that I cut and then had milled on my farm. I went out today to start pulling a few boards off the top and came to the realization that rough cut means just that. I don't think there are many straight edges in the stack. My hopes were to have a nice tight seam. That's not going to happen with these boards.

    So, suggestions? How can I make this work OR do I punt and install OSB or other types of plywood? Board and batton? Not sure I"ll have enough lumber for that. If I tried that, how wide would the 'batton' board need to be?


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    Re: Interior Shop walls, setback. :( suggestions?

    How long ago were the boards cut?
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    Re: Interior Shop walls, setback. :( suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyatt Co. View Post
    How long ago were the boards cut?
    This year, in January.

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    Re: Interior Shop walls, setback. :( suggestions?

    At this point I'd go with OSB for the walls, then use the pine for trim and to build cabinets and shelves
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    Re: Interior Shop walls, setback. :( suggestions?

    ↑Agreed↑

    The pine is still dripping with sap and is as far from "dry" as Lake Michigan. There is still a ton of movement in those boards and anything you build with them now will make you angry later on.
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    Re: Interior Shop walls, setback. :( suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyatt Co. View Post
    ↑Agreed↑

    The pine is still dripping with sap and is as far from "dry" as Lake Michigan. There is still a ton of movement in those boards and anything you build with them now will make you angry later on.
    They are actually at about 12-13% moisture content. I double checked with the SYP used on the inside of the shop [dressed product] and they read about the same.

    No matter... Not gonna work right now anyway. Didn't have this in the budget. CRAP. May just go with a 4' wall of OSB all the way around to get me started so I can run the electric and leave the top part unfinished and covered in a vapor barrier to keep the insulation in place.

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    Re: Interior Shop walls, setback. :( suggestions?

    Why not straight line rip it all? Good excuse for one of those fancy Festool track saws.

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    Re: Interior Shop walls, setback. :( suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyR View Post
    Why not straight line rip it all? Good excuse for one of those fancy Festool track saws.
    While standing out there staring at the stack of about 140 boards I thought about ripping them to straighten up for about 3 seconds... then thought, that's a LOT of boards to rip on both sides!

    But it certainly is an option.

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    Re: Interior Shop walls, setback. :( suggestions?

    David
    After hurricane Fran in '96 I ended up with a bunch of pine boards that I planned to use just like you. My boards were somewhat dryer than yours but pretty crooked. I ended up ripping
    BOTH sides of over 150 1x8x11' and nailing them up.
    While the result was pretty much what I wanted, it was WAY too much work.
    I definitely could have used the time and wood to a greater advantage....even selling the wood and buying ply or OSB might have been cheaper and faster and easier.
    I probably wouldn't use batten strips and it might make it harder to hang things like cabinets, shelves, etc.
    Good luck with your decision.
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    Re: Interior Shop walls, setback. :( suggestions?

    If you go with the 4' wall idea, consider covering the top 4' with sheets of pegboard. It looks pretty nice if you paint the brown stuff a lighter color with latex paint. Don't bother with the white stuff, it chips and the brown shows - buy brown and paint it yourself. A small 4 or 6" roller makes short work of the painting - do that before you hang it.
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    Re: Interior Shop walls, setback. :( suggestions?

    Your fail-safe option at this point is ply or OSB sheathing. Save the wany edged rough cut pine for other utilitarian projects that are less urgent.

    Your 4/4 pine cut last January should be reasonably dry after 9 months, which agrees with your moisture meter comparisons. I found this tidbit by Scott Smith, one of our sawyers here at NCWW.



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    Reply #3 on: July 27, 2015, 12:16:41 pm



    I'm in central NC so my environment is probably similar to yours.

    4/4 pine will air dry from green down to 16% MC in 60 - 90 days here in the summer if it is stacked and stickered where it has good airflow through the stacks.. About twice that in the winter.

    6/4 about 100 - 140 days.



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    Re: Interior Shop walls, setback. :( suggestions?

    David, the quick and dirty solution would be to take your lumber to a sawyer and have them run the boards through a two blade edger. Much faster than a straight line rip and the cut quality should be acceptable.

    Probably cost you $100.00; less if you'll provide the labor to offbear from the edger.

    Board and batten would not be my first choice inside a shop because I like flat walls for attaching things to. A reverse board and batten may be an option though.

    Another choice would be to staple tar paper to the studs and then install the boards as-is. The tar paper will provide a nice black background for the area visible in-between the board edges and you'll have a nice rustic appearance.

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    Re: Interior Shop walls, setback. :( suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by scsmith42 View Post
    David, the quick and dirty solution would be to take your lumber to a sawyer and have them run the boards through a two blade edger. Much faster than a straight line rip and the cut quality should be acceptable.

    Probably cost you $100.00; less if you'll provide the labor to offbear from the edger.

    Board and batten would not be my first choice inside a shop because I like flat walls for attaching things to. A reverse board and batten may be an option though.

    Another choice would be to staple tar paper to the studs and then install the boards as-is. The tar paper will provide a nice black background for the area visible in-between the board edges and you'll have a nice rustic appearance.

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    Is this a service you provide at your shop? The boards were 8" width when cut. After running through the edger, what width would I end up with on average?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSWalker View Post
    Is this a service you provide at your shop? The boards were 8" width when cut. After running through the edger, what width would I end up with on average?
    Yes. David, the width would depend upon how badly the boards had crooked. Usually you will lose 1-1/2", or thereabouts.

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    Re: Interior Shop walls, setback. :( suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by scsmith42 View Post
    Yes. David, the width would depend upon how badly the boards had crooked. Usually you will lose 1-1/2", or thereabouts.

    Thanks, I may be in touch soon.

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