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    LED Shop light (fluorescent replacement)

    I can't find the original thread, but someone mentioned replacing the old 4ft fluorescent fixtures with the LED replacement...

    in a word... BRILLIANT!

    These things are twice the light, sharp, clear and bright. What a huge difference, and CHEAP TOO!

    So, a tip of my hat to you, whoever you are.

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    Re: LED Shop light (fluorescent replacement)

    I also see where LED strips work well, too. Matt Cremona has a YouTube video on this.

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    Re: LED Shop light (fluorescent replacement)

    I can't find that thread either but remember it and it was really useful to me. I replaced 6-8 T8 fluorescent bulbs (4') with Feit LEDs from Costco at about $9/bulb; the bulbs required no ballast changes so flip the switch and Voila!

    https://www.costco.com/Feit-4-FT-LED...100235288.html

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    Re: LED Shop light (fluorescent replacement)

    I got the same as Jeff...no ballast required.....

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    Re: LED Shop light (fluorescent replacement)

    Have bought 3 for garage/shop, 2 for attic, and used their Under cabinet models, 4 in Kitchen..Home D..brand is Commercial Electric, extremely pleased

    http://www.homedepot.com/s/commercia...p+light?NCNI-5

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    Re: LED Shop light (fluorescent replacement)

    Out of interest, are you guys pulling permits when changing these fixtures?

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    Re: LED Shop light (fluorescent replacement)

    You don't need permits to change bulbs or light fixtures as long as you are not modifying the wiring.

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    Re: LED Shop light (fluorescent replacement)

    Apparently you do - I contacted the chief inspector of Apex about it a while ago.

    As a homeowner, you can do pretty much any work yourself acting as the “General Contractor” so long as you occupy your home for the 12 months following the work. However, in that instance, you would need to obtain a permit for certain types of work (such as replacement of light fixtures or ceiling fans). Typically a basic/minimum electrical permit for that work would be $66 and can be obtained online or by calling one of our permit technicians.

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    Re: LED Shop light (fluorescent replacement)

    Complete money grab. I stand corrected , you can't touch anything without a permit. Next will be a permit on plugging in appliances so you don't overload a circuit. Thanks Brogan for the info.

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    Re: LED Shop light (fluorescent replacement)

    As an addendum, a licensed electrician can replace light fixtures, etc. without a permit.

    Adding new fixtures/outlets would require a permit regardless, even if a licensed electrician performed the work.

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    Complete money grab. I stand corrected , you can't touch anything without a permit. Next will be a permit on plugging in appliances so you don't overload a circuit.
    Agreed on both counts.

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    Re: LED Shop light (fluorescent replacement)

    Your post said " changing light fixtures". Green Light Depot sells T-8 bulbs that are LED that will operate with or without a ballast. Just switch bulbs which is perfectly legal without a permit. They come in 3-6000 K

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    Re: LED Shop light (fluorescent replacement)

    If it's just a bulb swap then yes, that's fine.

    The opening post mentions the word 'fixture' though, so it's not clear whether it was just a bulb which was changed, or not.

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    Re: LED Shop light (fluorescent replacement)

    I've found that the Inspectors need specific questions and not generalities in order to get a reasonable "on the fence" answer. A few examples:

    1. Are permits required to change light bulbs or the fixtures that they go into? The plug on the new fixture goes into the "old" receptacle box and I swear that I haven't touched it.

    2. BTW, the inspector at the desk next to yours told me that I could later remove the GCFI receptacle and replace it with a regular receptacle. Why is that? Your light receptacles are in the garage, unlikely to fall into a bucket or sink of water and therefore no GCFI is required.

    Many of the inspectors are willing to discuss specific situations or look at them in order to give you specific advice, but that advice isn't chiseled in stone and many of the more experienced inspectors are open to a logical discussion of the circumstances without an absolute "verboten, no exceptions" because the codes say "yada, yada, yada".

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    Re: LED Shop light (fluorescent replacement)

    There's also the issue of different inspectors interpreting the code differently or giving different answers to the same question.

    In this case I was very explicit when I questioned the inspector and broke down the component parts as 1) the junction box (installed in the ceiling), 2) the light fixture (e.g. something purchased from HD), and 3) the bulb.

    He made it clear that removing an existing fixture (2) (e.g. a 1 pendant light) from the junction box (1) and replacing it with a new fixture (e.g. a 3 pendant light), would require a permit.

    I'm just passing along what I was told - it can become problematic (and expensive) at a later date (especially when selling), if the question is asked whether any changes were permitted.

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