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    Re: Starting desk/bookcase project

    Great thread! Thank you for bringing us along on the journey.

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    Re: Starting desk/bookcase project

    Charlie, thank you for continuing to share your progress on this project. Your attention to detail is just amazing. What kind of finish are you going to put on it?
    I'll gladly tell you how I do something. Just please don't confuse that with the right way to do it, and almost certainly not the only way.


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    Re: Starting desk/bookcase project

    The mitered breadboard end caught my eye too. Thanks for posting, I'm loving the updates.

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    Re: Starting desk/bookcase project

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    Charlie, a mitered breadboard end cap is sure an interesting touch. I've never seen one or thought of it. Neat!
    The desk I'm modeling this on had the mitered detail. I've never done one before now. They're hard to fit--still don't have this quite closed up. Needs a little more adjusting.

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    Re: Starting desk/bookcase project

    Charlie the desk fallboard is stunning. This is the toughest part of the build in my view. The decision on fitting the hinges on the desk surface and fallboard differs depending on what time of year you make the connection.

    As a rule, I fit my hinges BEFORE I glue in the desk board. I leave extra width on the deskboard so I can make corrections if needed. As you can see in the photo, I have temporary loppers to hold the lid flat in the open position so I can check all is in plane. This is just my technique for keeping the tension in check during a very delicate phase of fitting.


    The full length breadboards without the top miter are much easier to build and easier to deal with expansion issues down the road. They do look pretty when done well.

    In the lid above, you glue the middle tenon and let the outer tenons "float" during the movement.




    In the photo here, the mitered end is glued. So the breadboard rides out when the fallboard shrinks. This is the critical calculation you have to consider NOW.

    When looking at the lid plans, you might notice the thumbnail edge is the same on the top and sides but it is bigger on the bottom of the board as you look at it in the closed position. This is calculated and something that will help you down the road.

    What?

    When the lid shrinks the breadboards will protrude more on one end than the breadboard glued in the middle. Unlike the board glued in the middle which can expand/shrink on both ends, the mitered board moves on one end. It happens to be the end that contacts the desk board and causes binding.

    So Krause and the other builders of the time made the finished edge(thumbnail)on the bottom big so you could plane the breadboard on the bottom where it extends and hits the deskboard before the lid is down.

    This is EXTREMELY important for you to watch the first year of movement. If you fit your fallboard nice and tight the hinge area can crack as the pull from contraction increases

    Keep that in mind.
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    Re: Starting desk/bookcase project

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    Charlie, thank you for continuing to share your progress on this project. Your attention to detail is just amazing. What kind of finish are you going to put on it?
    Planning on shellac. Probably amber but I need to do some tests on samples. There some color differences I see that need work.

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    Re: Starting desk/bookcase project

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    Charlie, a mitered breadboard end cap is sure an interesting touch. I've never seen one or thought of it. Neat!


    Jeff here's another desk by Krause. You can see double ended miters. The lid here is in style with the design of the desk sides. There is a broad inlay in the fields of the lid and sides to enhance the joints of the veneer. The inside of this desk is just beautiful. More elaborate than the one Charlie is building but it is "stair stepped" like the design of the desk Charlie is building.


    This cherry piece above is different than the one Charlie is building. Its a great example of tasteful veneer work done well.

    The door panels, desk sides, drawer fronts and fallboard are all veneered.

    The gooseneck continuous molding on the upper case was hand carved and scraped to match the straight pieces on the sides. Lots of work.

    Wanted to do this one 25 years ago but I didn't have 10' ceilings. I spent 1 full day measuring this for a potential customer. Never happened so I considered scaling it down for an 8' ceiling house. Time got away.







    This is the "stair step" lay out common to Moravian desks.




    This type of elaborate gallery was more commonly found in pieces built in the larger cities in the 18th century. Lots of competition and the builders had to make things fancier to attract the customers.











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    Re: Starting desk/bookcase project

    Time to move on to the bookcase half of this project. Have to move the desk half out of the shop to get some working room. Finished the back today--1/2 in poplar shiplap with a little bead. Here's some finished photos in the shop door.
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    Re: Starting desk/bookcase project

    Absolutely beautiful, Charlie. I like the dark patch in the desk/lid part.
    I'll gladly tell you how I do something. Just please don't confuse that with the right way to do it, and almost certainly not the only way.


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    Re: Starting desk/bookcase project

    That dark patch, is very similar to the outline of North Carolina. Beautiful craftsmanship, Charlie!
    I like making things. I have a wood shop at home. I am a terrible carpenter but I love doing it. Raymond - Charlotte, NC

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    Gorgeous!!!
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    Re: Starting desk/bookcase project

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    That dark patch, is very similar to the outline of North Carolina. Beautiful craftsmanship, Charlie!
    Thanks , Raymond. I knew where that board was going when I saw it in the stack.

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