Simple looking project ...

Henry W

Henry
Corporate Member
Here's a bathroom shelving project that looks simple, but both the contractor and I made unnecessarily complex.

We wanted a inset shelving unit based on a pic my wife saw in a Delta catalog. Guessed on dimensions. The contractor thought they needed a custom woodworker to handle this, so I said leave me an opening and I will finish it; they installed 1x6 jambs around the opening and painted it. Simple enough - EXCEPT the jambs were not plumb and the opening was not square. The jambs were proud of the drywall and tile by 3/4 and 3/8" respectively.
Upon completion by contractor, I got to finish the job. I added 'jamb extensions' and a back to make an inset box of 11" deep, 16" wide, and 48" high. The fact that the jamb/opening was not square made adding extensions more complicated than necessary (I can make a box out of square, and have done so, but this one had to match an out-of-square box and match seamlessly). Added joint compound to smooth the inevitable seams, primed and painted the box with the wall paint.

Shelves were 1/2" plywood, that I veneered with shop-cut veneer of thermally modified ash. Sloppily done but acceptable. Added a front face of solid wood on each shelf that extended wider than the jambs and is notched around the 'proud jamb.' This notching was very fiddly and time consuming - mostly I guess because I was trying to get a notch fit that was too tight and because the out of square opening meant no two shelves were alike.

As yet unfinished, but they will get a light double coat of Target Coatings EM6000 (the acrylic 'lacquer').
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Jack A.

Jack
Corporate Member
Looks great!

The tolerances on a house are much greater than on fine furniture. You pretty much always have to scribe whatever needs to match the wall.
 
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Henry W

Henry
Corporate Member
Looks great!

The tolerances on a house are much greater than on fine furniture. You pretty much always have to scribe whatever needs to match the wall.
Sure, understood. Realize that one jamb is 1/4" out of plumb over 4 feet. Push that to an 80" door height and even the best trim carpenter will squawk- or not?
The installer likely had no idea what the final unit was to be, and so wasn't very careful on plumb or square.
 

Jack A.

Jack
Corporate Member
wasn't very careful on plumb or square
My experience is that trades will do the job as quickly as they can. It doesn't have to be plumb or square, just pass inspection and get them paid. You have to really stay on top of them if quality is important.

You're talking to someone who deals with this level of out-of-plumb in my house, so I feel your pain...

How about 1/4" out-of-plumb across a 4" electrical box? This is for the light fixture in our powder room, so yeah, being plumb here actually matters.

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Our kitchen has the sink in a corner with two 24" windows. They're out of plumb by about 3/4" across roughly 6':

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The corner windows in our master bath are about as bad, but you can't really see that anymore since we had it redone.
 

CarolinaHawk

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Will
Out-of-square openings always make things way harder than they should be. But it’s cool how you managed to fix it with those jamb extensions and still got everything to fit.
 

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tone
Senior User
The National Association of Home Builders Residential Construction Performance Guidlines, used by many home builders as their quality standard, makes for interesting reading, and if you read it you will understand what is deemed acceptable and what is not. The builder of our house gave us a copy after the house was built, as a defensive statement against any quality issues that may have arisen. I may be misremembering this, but I recall that 3/8" out of plumb over 32" was acceptable.

When is plumb not plumb? When it's not plumb. Don't get me started on square.
Tone
 

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