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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

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    I'm not entirely sure what the difference is between the G1023 and G069x series; the latter series is obviously superior, but it's not immediately apparent why.
    Heh, just found the answer on the Grizzly site:

    What are the main differences between the G1023RL-Series and the G0690-Series table saws?
    Aside from color and outward appearances, there are 6 primary differences between these series of machines: the drive system, dust extraction components, switch lock-ability, blade guard spreader/riving knife release mechanism, the fence, and the country of origin.

    What is the difference between the G1023RL-Series and G0690-Series belt-drive systems?
    The G1023RL-series features a poly-V "Serpentine" belt-drive system, which is quieter and transfers power more efficiently than a standard single V-belt drive system. The G0690-series features a triple V-belt drive system, which does a better job of maintaining a consistent transfer of power when under load than a standard single V-belt drive system.

    What is the difference between the G1023RL-Series and G0690-Series dust extraction systems?
    The G1023RL-series encapsulates the underside of the blade with a dust hood that is connected directly to the dust port via an internal dust hose. This allows a dust collector to remove the majority of dust that falls through the table, and it helps keep the other components inside the cabinet clean. This system requires less cleaning and maintenance than that of saws where the dust falls straight through to the bottom of the cabinet. The G0690-series has a fully-enclosed cabinet with a sloped bottom that allows gravity to direct incoming dust toward the dust port.

    What is the difference between the G1023RL-Series and G0690-Series mag switches?
    The G1023RL-series features a lockable mag switch with an included key-lock padlock. The G0690-series features a mag switch that can also be disabled from accidental use with a special pin, but it does not accommodate a padlock, so it can't be completely locked.

    What is the difference between the G1023RL-Series and G0690-Series blade guard spreader/riving knife release mechanism?
    The G1023RL-series is equipped with a quick-release lever to unlock/lock the spreader/riving knife when changing between blade guards. The G0690-series is equipped with an easily-accessible knurled knob that unlocks/locks the spreader/riving knife with a quick rotation.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    I have the G1023RLW. It's a fine machine. I've had no trouble from it at all. I'd buy it again with no regrets. Sure it doesn't have the flesh sensing technology of a SawStop....its also half the price too. The Sawstop is way outside your budget as it was for me. This saw will last a lifetime. I think either of those Grizzly's will be the best bang for your buck if you buy new.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    Did you consider the G1023RLWX for the extra $50?

    It seems like that's a very cheap upgrade from 3HP to 5HP.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    It does seem like a cheap upgrade, although I've come no where near taxing the motor on mine.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    I doubt I'll ever need 5HP too, but for $50 it's an easy decision to make.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    I have a Grizzly G1023slx, the wide-fence predecessor to the newer saws with riving knives. I bought mine at the now closed Muncie, PA store in June 2004 and as a 10", 3HP cabinet saw, it has been a very reliable and stable tool at the center of my shop. It has remained in good tune for years (I normally use a Forrest WWII full kerf blade), but I've found it very accurate for my Leitz and Delta Rip blades and Freud SD608 dado set. Overhead dust collection with a Shark Guard (4" port) and an added 6" dust port have improved dust capture. The only accessory I sidelined was the wonky miter gauge which I replaced with an Osborne Gauge of much better precision.

    If you need to manage and cut sheet goods, then your choice is an excellent one -- as for a 5HP model, I doubt it will have any real capacity that the 3HP model cannot handle (I have ripped 10/4 White and Red Oak with mine). Put the extra money into good saw blades because they are where the saw's work is accomplished, not so much by consuming extra amps with a 5HP motor.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    Ugh! I'm still no closer on deciding what to do about a table saw.
    I need to decide soon too as the builder is now running electrics.

    My head is saying just get the G0771Z or G0715P.
    My heart on the other hand is convinced I need the G1023RLWX.

    The issue with the latter is I need to shell out an additional $300 for a 240V outlet in the garage, which just compounds the issue.

    If I could trust that I would get a decent G0771Z or G0715P, it would just be between those two.
    But I've read a lot of stuff online about issues with both of them - mostly related to blade alignment.

    I suppose I could compromise and go for the G1023RL, which is currently on 'sale' and ~$200 cheaper than the WX.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    If you don't already have a 240V outlet in your garage, that seems like a great excuse to get a 240V circuit out there. That will open up options for future tools purchases as well. (Don't bother with a 15A circuit since you can use 20A receptacles with 15A or 20A plugs.)

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    Yes, I've already got 3 x 15A outlets so no issues there for regular tools.

    I would though need a 20A outlet for the G0771Z or G0715P as they draw 15A and 16A respectively.
    I *may* be able to get away with a 15A but I wouldn't want to risk it.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    What about adding an additional 60/100 amp sub breaker installed by the builder, then just run what ever you need. Are those 15 amp circuit on the same circuit???

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    Well I could run whatever I want after closing - there is more than enough spare capacity on the breaker board.

    The garage is fully dry-walled and painted though, so I would either have to do it all surface mounted or hack it all apart to run new branch circuits.

    I just figured that with a brand new house (garage) it would be nice(r) to have the wiring done in-wall.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    I totally get it. I wish I had the builder install a 100 amp sub panel before moving in. I quickly outgrew the leftover spots in the 200amp box. Mostly from the dedicated 220v lines for the shop ac, air compressor, chip collector, ect. To answer the original question I would personally go with the G1023RLWX

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    I just begrudgingly told the builder to install 1 x 240V 40A outlet and 2 x 120V 20A outlets.
    That was $600 I could have done without spending

    So at least now I have the flexibility to go with any table saw and should the need arise, run 2 to 3 heavy duty pieces of equipment simultaneously.

    Still no closer on deciding on a saw though

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    That stings now, but you'll look back and be glad you did that. Good call!

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    You might consider how you are going to use that 40A outlet before going that route. You might think about Lowlander's suggestion of a subpanel.

    On the other hand, I am probably going WAY overboard with electric in my shop. It is cheaper when you do it yourself, but the cost still added up much quicker than I expected.

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