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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Roy G View Post
    Did you see the Delta contractor saw on the Classifieds?
    I have now, thanks.

    Unfortunately it's a little thin on details and there doesn't seem to be much information on that model online.
    From what I can gather though, it doesn't have a riving knife or blade guard/pawls, so I'll probably pass.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Brogan View Post
    I have now, thanks
    From what I can gather though, it doesn't have a riving knife or blade guard/pawls, so I'll probably pass.
    Very few used saws will have a riving knife, and most likely the guard will be MIA.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    One thing to remember when looking for a unisaw, they are 220V single phase and are not easy to move (intentionally so) once put in place.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    This is very true.
    Quote Originally Posted by junquecol View Post
    Very few used saws will have a riving knife, and most likely the guard will be MIA.
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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    In that case I'm probably going to go a different route.

    I would prefer something with the newer safety features.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    Quote Originally Posted by redknife View Post
    The key upgrades you would experience with a Unisaw would be beefy cabinet mounted trunnions, better dust collection, motor size, and mass. Portable and contractor saw trunnions generally mount to the under side of the table. Hybrid saws like the ones you mentioned generally also have trunnions mounted to the underside of the top which makes for less stability and more difficult adjustments. What you get with cabinet mounted heavier trunnions is a much more stable saw, easier adjustments, stable adjustments, and perhaps cleaner cuts.
    As I know it, the cheapest new cabinet saw with cabinet mounted trunnions is the Grizzly 1023. The trunnions mounts look virtually identical to a Unisaw.
    Hybrid saws can go either way, cabinet or table mounted. If the original Rigid tablesaw mentioned was based upon the Orion design (also some Craftsman, Steel City, and other brands out there out of Taiwan), as most of the stationary Rigid models seem to be, then the trunnions will have been cabinet mounted. In fact, the OPs original issue could very likely have been addressed simply by shimming the table.

    That said, I am all for one buying whatever they want for hobby use. Just because someone may not necessarily earn income off their hobby (though one never knows the future) does not mean that a hobby can not be taken every bit as seriously as a profession (and many do take their hobbies seriously), so buy what you need and can afford for your pleasure as any decent model should serve you well for years to come. But Powermatic, Saw Stop, or even an older Unisaw, are all very nice tablesaws. The primary advantage of a more modern tablesaw, versus older models, would be the inclusion of a riving knife, which reduces kickback risks but is more transparent than a splitter since it can be left installed at all times (even during fado cuts), otherwise they remain quite comparable to older quality tablesaws.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    Quote Originally Posted by ehpoole View Post
    In fact, the OPs original issue could very likely have been addressed simply by shimming the table.
    I considered that and if were not for the top being so uneven, I probably would have tried.

    Although I reckon I would have had to shim it at least 1/8", it was that far out.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    Brogan, Since you raised your budget, you're only about $55 per finger from a Sawstop contractor saw.

    A modern riving knife is a must have for myself.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    Quote Originally Posted by TENdriver View Post
    you're only about $55 per finger from a Sawstop contractor saw.
    Haha!


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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    If it were me, I'd go to this auction in Hillsborough and bid on the Unisaw. The pic is kinda small, but you can make out the basics. The description tells more about it. You never know what something will go for at an auction, but I would place this in the $500 - 800 range.



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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    Sounds like a really nice set up there. If I did not have my Jet...............?????
    Always be true to yourself as well as to others. N4RME HAM!

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    Quote Originally Posted by ehpoole View Post
    Hybrid saws can go either way, cabinet or table mounted. If the original Rigid tablesaw mentioned was based upon the Orion design (also some Craftsman, Steel City, and other brands out there out of Taiwan), as most of the stationary Rigid models seem to be, then the trunnions will have been cabinet mounted. In fact, the OPs original issue could very likely have been addressed simply by shimming the table
    hate to disagree with an esteemed colleague but the parts diagram suggests otherwise for the Ridgid and mentioned Grizzly hybrid - trunnions mounted to the bottom of the table.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    Quote Originally Posted by redknife View Post
    trunnions mounted to the bottom of the table.
    That's correct.

    To make matters worse, the front trunnions aren't supposed to be touched (they're awkward to reach and very hard to loosen from the factory setting) - the manual only states to loosen the rear trunnions.

    I did actually loosen them anyway to see if that would help - it didn't.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Clemmons View Post
    If it were me, I'd go to this auction in Hillsborough and bid on the Unisaw.
    Potentially that looks like an interesting option.

    Unfortunately I don't have anywhere near enough the experience or knowledge of old saws to check one over and bid on one in an auction, nor the means to get it home.

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    Re: You have $1,000 to spend on a table saw ...

    Re the auction in Hillsborough that Bill suggested...that Unisaw comes with a bunch of accessories, outfeed table jigs etc...the current bid is $625, the asking price is $650 (maybe somebody on here is in the bidding?) but with the buyers premium of 15% and tax of 7.5% that will put the take-home price at $800. All things considered, that is still a pretty good deal....and it looks like most of the stuff in the auction is pretty well taken care. If I were in the market, I would definitely give this one a close look, especially with all the extras (if you can use them).

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