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    Re: Basement Subfloor Questions

    I can bring some of the samples (leftovers) to the next Board Meeting - we should have one soon, BTW. That picture looks close but as Mike mentioned there are channels to let water flow under the foam in mine. The channels are just a bevel in the foam towards all 4 edges. It is 2'x2' T&G interlocking pieces. It is a floating floor - you leave a 1/4" gap around the edges and use some molding (1/2" quarter round) on top the edges and let it float underneath that.

    The OVRX tolerates slightly uneven floors, but the Dri-Core has to be shimmed level - another advantage.

    Here's the thread from back when I installed mine.

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    Re: Basement Subfloor Questions

    I contacted Barricade and I got this response from them:

    Good afternoon Jeremy,

    BARRICADE is no longer available in the US. DRIcore is the sister brand of Barricade and is the only brand available in the US.
    DRIcore offers an insulated panel as well as the air gap panel. Please see product summaries below:

    DRIcore R+ (Insulated panel)

    R-Value: 3
    Air Flow: Yes
    Height: 1”
    Top Composition: OSB
    Bottom: Composition XPS Foam
    Weight: 6.5lbs.
    Size: 2’ x 2’ Nominal
    Warranty: 25 Years
    Panels are designed with friction fit tongue and groove.
    Finished Flooring Options: Laminate, Solid / Engineered Hardwood, Carpet, Vinyl, Tile

    DRIcore Subfloor (Standard Panel)

    R-Value: 1.7
    Air Flow: Yes
    Height: 7/8”
    Top Composition: OSB
    Bottom Composition: Polyethylene
    Weight: 7.5lbs.
    Size: 2’ x 2’ Nominal
    Warranty: 25 Years
    Supports up to 4000lbs/sq.ft.
    Subfloor panels are designed with friction fit tongue and groove, eliminating the need for glues or other coupling attachments.
    Finished Flooring Options: Laminate, Solid / Engineered Hardwood, Carpet, Vinyl, Tile


    DRIcore Subfloor will provide you with 75% more airflow beneath your floor than the R+. R+ will provide you with 50% more R Value than the DRIcore Subfloor.

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    Re: Basement Subfloor Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy Scuteri View Post
    Ken,
    Just to be 100% clear, this is what you have?
    Jeremy, I had this exact thing on the concrete slab in my basement until this past summer. It worked great, was pleasant to walk on and the floor never felt cold. Ended up having to rip it all though due to a foundation leak that I wasn't aware of. Water was getting in behind a finished wall, hitting the original linoleum on the slab and then just spreading out under the insulated OSB. They were fitted so tightly together that the water had nowhere to go and couldn't evaporate. I didn't discover the problem until I started noticing soft spots developing in the floor. In all I had to rip out about 900 square feet of it.

    If I wasn't face with the prospect of any potential foundation leaks in the future, I would definitely use the stuff again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy Scuteri View Post
    I contacted Barricade and I got this response from them:

    Good afternoon Jeremy,

    BARRICADE is no longer available in the US. DRIcore is the sister brand of Barricade and is the only brand available in the US.
    DRIcore offers an insulated panel as well as the air gap panel. Please see product summaries below:

    DRIcore R+ (Insulated panel)

    R-Value: 3
    Air Flow: Yes
    Height: 1”
    Top Composition: OSB
    Bottom: Composition XPS Foam
    Weight: 6.5lbs.
    Size: 2’ x 2’ Nominal
    Warranty: 25 Years
    Panels are designed with friction fit tongue and groove.
    Finished Flooring Options: Laminate, Solid / Engineered Hardwood, Carpet, Vinyl, Tile

    DRIcore Subfloor (Standard Panel)

    R-Value: 1.7
    Air Flow: Yes
    Height: 7/8”
    Top Composition: OSB
    Bottom Composition: Polyethylene
    Weight: 7.5lbs.
    Size: 2’ x 2’ Nominal
    Warranty: 25 Years
    Supports up to 4000lbs/sq.ft.
    Subfloor panels are designed with friction fit tongue and groove, eliminating the need for glues or other coupling attachments.
    Finished Flooring Options: Laminate, Solid / Engineered Hardwood, Carpet, Vinyl, Tile


    DRIcore Subfloor will provide you with 75% more airflow beneath your floor than the R+. R+ will provide you with 50% more R Value than the DRIcore Subfloor.
    Wow! That is super disappointing. I looked at Dricore and it is not feet supportive. It is a rigid plastic under-layer that has no give. All that R-value and airflow stuff is irrelevant to me versus the comfort factor. I'm looking to move sometime in the near future and may end up with concrete floors for a future shop - hopefully bigger, but if OVRX is not available, I will have a hard time finding a suitable substitute.

    Que Sara - like a lot of products I love, they go away before I can buy more.

    This sucks - sorry to be so negative. A good product bites the dust.
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    Re: Basement Subfloor Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by KenOfCary View Post
    Wow! That is super disappointing. I looked at Dricore and it is not feet supportive. It is a rigid plastic under-layer that has no give. All that R-value and airflow stuff is irrelevant to me versus the comfort factor. I'm looking to move sometime in the near future and may end up with concrete floors for a future shop - hopefully bigger, but if OVRX is not available, I will have a hard time finding a suitable substitute.

    Que Sara - like a lot of products I love, they go away before I can buy more.

    This sucks - sorry to be so negative. A good product bites the dust.
    Ken,
    I believe the DRIcore R+ (insulated panel) is the same as Barricade OVRX. DRIcore Subfloor is the one with the plastic bottom (more air flow).

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    Re: Basement Subfloor Questions

    If moisture isn't a problem, I'd go with the 4' x 8' sheets of blue foam and T&G on top of that. Surely more cost effective!

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    Re: Basement Subfloor Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Mathews View Post
    If moisture isn't a problem, I'd go with the 4' x 8' sheets of blue foam and T&G on top of that. Surely more cost effective!
    Definitely leaning that direction. I'll have time to overthink this as I stumble my way through hanging drywall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Mathews View Post
    If moisture isn't a problem, I'd go with the 4' x 8' sheets of blue foam and T&G on top of that. Surely more cost effective!

    Yup, and super comfy on the feet, knees, and back.

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    Re: Basement Subfloor Questions

    I have first-hand experience: similar square footage, bone-dry walkout basement on slab, new construction, ceiling height no issue. My priority was comfort followed by economy, DIY scope, air circulation to miminize mold problems, and flexible future use. I evaluated Dri-Core and stringers with foam interiors. I chose another option called Delta-FL. (Comes up #1 result if you Google it)

    It comes in large rolls which are pretty quick to put down and I put 3/4 t&g plywood subfloor on top. In an adjacent sewing room I installed Pergo over foam pad, in the shop I coated with clear poly.

    I didn't want to mess with shimming Dri-Core and I wanted plywood rather than flake board as finish. About 1 1/4 inch lost headroom.

    Installed with some tap-con screws to keep edges down. Poly was a bit slick with sawdust so I recoated with second coat with 'Sharkbite' additive. Now no-slip but easy to sweep and clean. Glue drippings just pop off, paint or water beads up for quick cleaning. Leaves plywood color which is easy to spot dropped hardware and good light reflection.

    Very comfortable to stand on. Supposedly can finish floor later if desired. I'm pretty happy with it, you're welcome to stop by some time to check it out yourself.

    Mike
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    Re: Basement Subfloor Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Mathews View Post
    If moisture isn't a problem, I'd go with the 4' x 8' sheets of blue foam and T&G on top of that. Surely more cost effective!
    I can almost smell rotten fish all the way over here. The smell is not just limited to spary foam, it also happens with ridgid foam also
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    Re: Basement Subfloor Questions

    I used Dri-Core on my walk out basement. I had some old wetness issues, so did not want to do the floors like I did my shop. I like the Dri-Core floors and have had them down for about 3 years now without any issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joec View Post
    I used Dri-Core on my walk out basement. I had some old wetness issues, so did not want to do the floors like I did my shop. I like the Dri-Core floors and have had them down for about 3 years now without any issues.
    I've never used it but DRIcore seems like a much better solution as it allows for air flow inbetween the slab and the DRIcore insulation. Cement sweats, you cant do anything about that... so moisture is always a issue and you know what happens when moisture is not allowed to eacape, mold growth occurs. When rigid (blue or pink) or closed cell spray foam gets wet and not allowed to breath - it'll give off a rotten fishy smell over time. Ive been there and done that... Just trying to save you the headache i went through.
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    Re: Basement Subfloor Questions

    Rigid Insulation can be ordered with grooves in it for airflow which would help if you had any moisture coming thru the slab. Then top with 4x8 T & G plywood

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