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    Untreated 4X4 posts

    These things seem to be as rare as hen's teeth. Pine or Fir is more than suitable.

    Anyone know of a supplier?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Untreated 4X4 posts

    Why don't you get Jack or Ivey to mill some for you?

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    Re: Untreated 4X4 posts

    How about cedar? I was able to get cedar fence posts at Home Despot. Used them to build some raised beds for my wife. 4x4x8.
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    Re: Untreated 4X4 posts

    A couple years back I got them at Capital City Lumber. It was pine.
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    Re: Untreated 4X4 posts

    I've often wondered the same thing. I see them used on DIY network pretty regularly but the only untreated 4x4's I've ever seen in the wild have been glued up oak or poplar and never more than 4' long.

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    Re: Untreated 4X4 posts

    I don't know for sure since it's been a while since I was over there, but the last time I was in 84 Lumber in Raleigh I thought I saw some untreated 4x4's. It would be worth a call to check anyway.
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    Re: Untreated 4X4 posts

    Tarheel Wood Treating in Morrisville used to have raw 4x4 posts (before pressure treating) that they offered to the public. Not sure if they still have it available or not. Worth a call.

    http://www.tarheelwoodtreating.com/

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    Re: Untreated 4X4 posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Weekendworrior View Post
    These things seem to be as rare as hen's teeth. Pine or Fir is more than suitable.

    Anyone know of a supplier?

    Thanks in advance.

    ~Bill
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    Re: Untreated 4X4 posts

    Quote Originally Posted by scsmith42 View Post
    Why don't you get Jack or Ivey to mill some for you?
    Don’t know right off hand who those that you speak of are. I’m also looking for kiln dried.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingRon View Post
    How about cedar? I was able to get cedar fence posts at Home Despot. Used them to build some raised beds for my wife. 4x4x8.
    More than I’d like to spend on the project.

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottM View Post
    A couple years back I got them at Capital City Lumber. It was pine.
    I’ll give them a call. Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by nn4jw View Post
    I don't know for sure since it's been a while since I was over there, but the last time I was in 84 Lumber in Raleigh I thought I saw some untreated 4x4's. It would be worth a call to check anyway.
    We had an 84 Lumber that shut down a little while back……..Lowes pretty much caused that. I like Lowes and all but 84 had real lumber.

    Quote Originally Posted by Canuck View Post
    Tarheel Wood Treating in Morrisville used to have raw 4x4 posts (before pressure treating) that they offered to the public. Not sure if they still have it available or not. Worth a call.

    http://www.tarheelwoodtreating.com/

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    Thanks for the suggestion but the drive is a bit much and the shipping would be detrimental to my budget.

    Quote Originally Posted by YooperFinn View Post
    What species are you looking for?
    The exotic species known as “cheap”.

    I’m building something that one might call bunk beds but not exactly. Most of the material used will be Pine. I’m not concerned with keeping the materials matching as it will be painted anyway.

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    Re: Untreated 4X4 posts

    Bill,

    "Painted and sorta like bunk beds". That clarifies it so you may not need true 4 x 4s. You could laminate a couple of 2 x 4s with glue (maybe a few countersunk screws too from opposite faces) and call them a 3.5" x 3". Rip to square if desired. That should be structurally sound imo.

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    Re: Untreated 4X4 posts

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottM View Post
    A couple years back I got them at Capital City Lumber. It was pine.
    Capital had SYP 4x4s at last check.

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    Re: Untreated 4X4 posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    Bill,

    "Painted and sorta like bunk beds". That clarifies it so you may not need true 4 x 4s. You could laminate a couple of 2 x 4s with glue (maybe a few countersunk screws too from opposite faces) and call them a 3.5" x 3". Rip to square if desired. That should be structurally sound imo.
    +1. I glued up a pair of 2x4's and that worked just fine for 10 years

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    Re: Untreated 4X4 posts

    After discovering the difficulty in finding the untreated posts locally, I entertained the idea of gluing two 2X4's together. I've resorted back to considering it but I have some red flags that keeps from being sold on the idea. Pine is very unstable and my shop isn't climate controlled. Past experience and disasters have taught me what times of the year are suitable for pine (and even poplar) projects to be completed in the shop and then brought into the house. The climate transition can wreak serious havoc on something as simple a simple mortise and tenon joint. Simple glue-ups can and will delaminate. I can't wait for the weather for this project.

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    Re: Untreated 4X4 posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Weekendworrior View Post
    After discovering the difficulty in finding the untreated posts locally, I entertained the idea of gluing two 2X4's together. I've resorted back to considering it but I have some red flags that keeps from being sold on the idea. Pine is very unstable and my shop isn't climate controlled. Past experience and disasters have taught me what times of the year are suitable for pine (and even poplar) projects to be completed in the shop and then brought into the house. The climate transition can wreak serious havoc on something as simple a simple mortise and tenon joint. Simple glue-ups can and will delaminate. I can't wait for the weather for this project.
    I don't understand that phenomenon in humid Clinton. Can you clarify? I don't consider pine or poplar to be unstable. Maybe your technique and glue type are the culprits. For, example, a poor fitting M&T may delaminate because our TBII and TBIII glues have poor gap filling characteristics. A glue starved joint is even more susceptible.

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    Re: Untreated 4X4 posts

    Elliots saw mill in Sanford would have some.

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ellio...96697050386185

    not sure about KD though, but his prices are great.

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