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Old 07-01-2008, 09:47 PM   #1
 
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Can someone ID this little fella? (snake)

Was up at Hanging Rock State park today and saw this little guy sunning himself on a rock near one of the waterfalls. He eventually made his way into the water and disappeared in some rocks. I tried looking on the following website but couldn't make a positive ID. Any thoughts?

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http://www.bio.davidson.edu/projects...es/snakes.html

Pics are not real good. He was about 18 inches.



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Re: Can someone ID this little fella? (snake)

I think that is a corn snake - although not as bright red as I've seen them before if it was a corn snake they are nonvenomous, it feeds on small rats, mice, birds, frogs and lizards.
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Re: Can someone ID this little fella? (snake)

If you were that close you could have come on up to my place. I'd show you some copperheads and black snakes as long as your leg.

My snake pictures always have a lot more red than that!
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Re: Can someone ID this little fella? (snake)

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I think that is a corn snake - although not as bright red as I've seen them before if it was a corn snake they are nonvenomous, it feeds on small rats, mice, birds, frogs and lizards.

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Re: Can someone ID this little fella? (snake)

I think corn snake is a good guess. I can't debate that with the colors that it shows in the picture...but...if I were to take a second guess, I would say northern water snake. They look A LOT like a copperhead, but the colors are opposite. This seems to have the same 'saddle' patterns.

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Re: Can someone ID this little fella? (snake)

Chris yep I agree with you it could very much well be a Yankee Water Snake - great ID

http://amphibiansandreptiles.com/her...s/Ner_sip.html

Kinda hard to tell by the pictures but the top right hand picture sure looks a lot like the snake Bill snapped pics of.



Bill did you pick it up and look at it's belly? If so that would be a dead give away - the corn snakes belly looks a lot like Indian corn, where as the northern water snake would have the same markings that's on it's back.

Although I don't like snakes much I find them very interesting. I need to make a trek up to Mikes for some excitement
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Re: Can someone ID this little fella? (snake)

It's hard to tell, but I would say Corn snake or Northern Water snake.
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Thanks for the help guys. Yea, the pics I have are not great, so it does make it hard to tell for sure. And no, I didn't pick it up to see it's belly.

Mike, I'm gonna have to pass on your offer to come see the copperheads. I don't mind non-venomous snakes as long as they don't startle me. But the only way I will get close to a venomous snake is if there is glass between us.
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Re: Can someone ID this little fella? (snake)

I would guess Northern Water Snake also. It looks alot like the one in my Koi pond and I almost caught him Saterday. I sure want to get him out before he gets big enough to start eating the Koi or lay eggs.
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Re: Can someone ID this little fella? (snake)

I have no idea what kind of snake that is, but those who have a morbid facination with these critters may enjoy this link: (found out about this when I lived in Texas and I thought they were all nuts).

http://www.rattlesnakeroundup.net/

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I can positively ID that little fella - SNAKE - yep it's a SNAKE
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Re: Can someone ID this little fella? (snake)

The only way I can identify a snake is to run it through my snake identifying tool...my rake, or shovel. Funny thing is, they all turn out to be red and dead.
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Re: Can someone ID this little fella? (snake)

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The only way I can identify a snake is to run it through my snake identifying tool...my rake, or shovel. Funny thing is, they all turn out to be red and dead.
And there's me rescuing one off the road the other day (4' rat snake) then going back twice more to check it was still ok! Nothing wrong with snakes just leave them alone and they'll leave you alone
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Re: Can someone ID this little fella? (snake)

When we first moved to the farm we had a black snake living in the attic. He or she eventually moved on. We don't bother black snakes as they keep other snakes and small furry things away.

I just don't want my kids to lose a limb or die from a poison snake bite so all copperheads get the appropriate dose of lead.
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Re: Can someone ID this little fella? (snake)

David, I'm with you. I'd be taking him across the road, too.

I'm on board with N. Watersnake as well. The pattern's right and so's the habitat. You wouldn't normally find a corn snake in the water.

PS - I've already rescued three box turtles since moving here, too.

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