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09-11-2009, 09:44 AM
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#1 | | Members Only Access to "Found for Sale/Hot Deal" ? Name: Mark City: Concord State: NC County: Cabarrus Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 54  09-11-2009, 09:44 AM
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Just a suggestion and a question as I don't know if this has been hashed out behind the scenes. Most times there are as many if not almost double the number of guests here as there are members. I know a lot of the "Guests" are virtual bots but I imagine a lot are lurkers. It would increase the value of membership and may motivate a few lurkers into joining up.
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09-11-2009, 10:13 AM
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#2 | | Site Programmer
Name: Jim Campbell City: Hillsborough State: NC County: Orange Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 39 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 7.00 over 180 days | Re: Members Only Access to "Found for Sale/Hot Deal" ?
Its a classic catch 22.
Some folks are more inclined to join after seeing into forums such as this one.
DQ Qualified offers are part of the exclusive special benefits of joining.
Closing off forums is technically possible, I'll leave it to debate as to the philosophical implications 
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09-11-2009, 10:32 AM
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Name: Mark City: Concord State: NC County: Cabarrus Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 54 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.96 over 180 days | Re: Members Only Access to "Found for Sale/Hot Deal" ?
Thanks Jim,
Seems like we put a lot of effort into this category. For future one off deals I find I'll just make an announcement in the Found for Sale/Hot Deal Forum and offer to PM details. The Shellac discount Vijay offers us brought this to mind as we don't have a place anymore that I can find to post North Carolina Woodworker DQ offers, discount codes, etc. It used to be in the Discounts and Offers for North Carolina Woodworker DQ Members section.
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09-11-2009, 11:08 AM
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Name: Jimmy City: Clayton State: NC County: Johnston Join Date: Sep 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 5.64 over 180 days | Re: Members Only Access to "Found for Sale/Hot Deal" ?
Good luck Mark. I've brought up this exact proposal a few times and the powers that be have shot me down. So now I don't bother posting in this forum anymore. I do however find good deals for people that post the need for certain items and then pm them (ie; DaveO a moisture meter, Sawduster a scrollsaw, etc.) with the info.
I support your effort wholeheartedly and hope that the new regime sees it the way you and I do.
Good Luck,
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09-11-2009, 01:56 PM
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Name: Jeremy City: Charlotte State: NC County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 31 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.92 over 180 days | Re: Members Only Access to "Found for Sale/Hot Deal" ?
Seems like a member benefit to me ...
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09-11-2009, 02:44 PM
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Name: Bill City: Mooresville State: NC County: Iredell Join Date: Oct 2008 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.07 over 180 days | Re: Members Only Access to "Found for Sale/Hot Deal" ?
Does it have to be one or the other? Is there a way to make the info available only to members for xx hours then available to all? Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; InfoPath.2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.3061 | |
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09-11-2009, 03:15 PM
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Name: Jeremy City: Charlotte State: NC County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 31 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.92 over 180 days | Re: Members Only Access to "Found for Sale/Hot Deal" ?
Maybe another forum for "Member Only Deals" where the member who posts can decide if they want to share with the world, or just the North Carolina Woodworker user base.  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.2) Gecko/20090729 Firefox/3.5.2 GTB5 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729) | |
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09-11-2009, 04:09 PM
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#8 | | Treasurer
Name: Travis City: Wake Forest State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Dec 2005 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.53 over 180 days | Re: Members Only Access to "Found for Sale/Hot Deal" ?
Seems like a member benefit to me as well, but not my decision. I suggest everyone PM'ing the North Carolina Woodworker President multiple times to ensure he gets the message!!!!
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09-11-2009, 04:48 PM
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#9 | | Senior Administrator
Name: Bas City: Raleigh State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 36 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.96 over 180 days | Re: Members Only Access to "Found for Sale/Hot Deal" ?
A few things to consider: - Requiring people to register might lead to more members. But...do we really want members who only joined to access the "Found for sale" forum? I'd prefer they remain lurkers if this is the only value they perceive here
- How many members will we lose because they don't find/ visit the site because this forum is inaccessible? I came to North Carolina Woodworker because I was looking for 6" S&D pipe. I sort of stuck around after that.
- Our advertisement revenue doesn't distinguish between guests and registered users. If we gain 1 registered user but lose 2 guests, we lose overall
- Most of the deals posted here are also posted on BT3Central, Sawmill Creek, Woodnet etc. Local deals often come from Craig's List. How much extra benefit are we really providing to the registered users here by limiting access?
- We do have a forum to post deals that are only available to people who are Discount Qualified (a subset of the overall registered user base).
Originally Posted by bwat  Does it have to be one or the other? Is there a way to make the info available only to members for xx hours then available to all? Not easily. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.2) Gecko/20090729 Firefox/3.5.2
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09-11-2009, 04:48 PM
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Name: Jimmy City: Clayton State: NC County: Johnston Join Date: Sep 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 5.64 over 180 days | Re: Members Only Access to "Found for Sale/Hot Deal" ?
[QUOTE=Travis Porter;259371] I suggest everyone PM'ing the North Carolina Woodworker President multiple times to ensure he gets the message!!!!
What's the matter Travis ? Are you mad at Doug or something  ? Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.0; Trident/4.0; GTB6; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; eSobiSubscriber 2.0.4.16; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729)
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09-11-2009, 04:55 PM
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Name: Jeremy City: Charlotte State: NC County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 31 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.92 over 180 days | Re: Members Only Access to "Found for Sale/Hot Deal" ?
Good points, Bas. I wasn't aware of the other place to post these deals for DQ members only (I like that idea for some stuff). That alone may do it ... so that when JimmyC finds me a 32" disc sander for $200 he can inform all of my competition! haha
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09-11-2009, 05:06 PM
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#12 | | Site Programmer
Name: Jim Campbell City: Hillsborough State: NC County: Orange Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 39 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 7.00 over 180 days | Re: Members Only Access to "Found for Sale/Hot Deal" ?
Bas re-discovered the "Confidential Offers for DQ Members" which is a Sub-Forum in User Announcements.
From the looks of it, its been almost a year since it was last used. (Hence re-discovery!)
Based on the history of posts in there, I suspect the Classifieds replaced much of what it was being used for.
I'll do some digging to see how we could make it more useful and better known member benefit.
Jim
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09-11-2009, 05:22 PM
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Name: Mark City: Concord State: NC County: Cabarrus Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 54 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.96 over 180 days | Re: Members Only Access to "Found for Sale/Hot Deal" ?
That's the place!
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09-11-2009, 05:46 PM
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#14 | | President
Moderator
Name: Doug Robinson City: Raleigh State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 48 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.96 over 180 days | Re: Members Only Access to "Found for Sale/Hot Deal" ?
Originally Posted by Travis Porter Seems like a member benefit to me as well, but not my decision. I suggest everyone PM'ing the North Carolina Woodworker President multiple times to ensure he gets the message!!!!
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The old BoD considered this, and the new board is revisiting it. Please do not make any changes without consulting the BoD. As Bas noted there are pluses and minuses to any change, as well as difficulties. We still are hving issues with people complying with the existing classified rules.
Thanks for your patience.
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09-11-2009, 09:58 PM
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Name: Dennis City: Ivan's Corner (Monroe) State: NC County: Union Join Date: Jan 2007 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.73 over 180 days | Re: Members Only Access to "Found for Sale/Hot Deal" ?
Another option to consider is to give members a time window on offers - say 1 week. After that it goes on the street to any taker, so to say. This should give serious offers from members time to gel, and if not, other buyers may be waiting.
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