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11-09-2008, 11:28 AM
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Name: Dolan Brown City: Wallace State: NC County: Duplin Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 60 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 5.17 over 180 days | Have any of you made you own shop air cleaner rather than buying one similar to one of these? http://www.amazon.com/708620B-AFS-10...14CVKZC20SR1CR
I like the 3 speeds and remote control on this unit, since I will have a tall ceiling space and wouldn't be able to easily reach the unit to change speeds or turn it on/off without using a wall switch.
If you have made your own, would you share some of your thoughts/photos/plans.
I think I have seen plans for building an air cleaner using a squirrel cage blower in a wood working magazine but don't remember which magazine.
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11-09-2008, 11:53 AM
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Name: DaveO City: Clayton State: NC County: Johnston Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 38 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 7.00 over 180 days | I bought an older version of that Jet used, for the reasons you mentioned. The whole design of the system is very simple, but not being very electrically inclined, having the addition of the multi-speeds, remote and timer were an advantage to me.
Although I have found the Jet unit to be so quiet that I always run it on the high speed. But I like to be able to set it to turn off after 2 hours from leaving the shop.
Other than the electronic controls it's a box with a fan in it, and filters....very simple.
Dave 
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11-09-2008, 12:08 PM
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Name: Wayne City: Cary State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 61 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 6.96 over 180 days | I have one of the older JDS air cleaner's w/o the remote control and timer.
My ceiling height is low enough that I just lengthened the on/off pull chain to turn it on and set one of the two speeds. (JDS wanted about $90 to convert it to the newer electronics (remote, timer etc.).
Joe Scharle, here at the site built a cool   air cleaner with a squirrel cage fan. Hopefully he will be along to share some of his ideas.
Wayne
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11-09-2008, 03:03 PM
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Name: Joe City: Holly Springs State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 66 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 7.04 over 180 days | I have maybe $30 in this. Paid for switches, castors & grills. I use house filters and the 120V HVAC blower asy was given to me by my HVAC man. They usually have more than they know what to do with. The box was from scrap. 3 spds and as you can see, the intake is at floor level because dust is heavier than air, after all. The output is directed upwards for circulation and it would create a dust storm if left to blow on the floor. I can rotate the intake toward the dust maker in use and the top & drawer are always useful. You're always welcome to come by for ideas. Joe  |
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11-09-2008, 07:58 PM
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Name: Travis City: Wake Forest State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Dec 2005 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 5.83 over 180 days | I built one, and did a post on it way back when. Sized it to use 14x25 high efficiency pleated filters. Two on the intake and one on the exhaust. My advice is to build it light (IE stay away from 3/4" plywood).
I think it does as well or better than the store bought ones. My only regret is I mounted it to the ceiling and I wish I had hung it from chains now. Being screwed to the ceiling it transmits the vibration some.
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11-09-2008, 10:01 PM
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Name: Scott Smith City: New Hill State: NC County: Chatham Join Date: Mar 2007 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 5.44 over 180 days | NCWoodworker member Don Patterson (Touchwood) built a really nice one in his shop. You might want to send him a PM.
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11-16-2008, 08:56 PM
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Name: Jim City: Lexington State: SC County: Lexington Join Date: May 2008 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 3.97 over 180 days | Mine is an old box fan in a new wooden box with an electrostatic filter on it. It works but the filter needs cleaned a lot. A lot of fine dust in my shop.
Jim |
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12-02-2008, 10:02 PM
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Name: Michael City: Garner State: NC County: Wake Join Date: May 2007 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 4.01 over 180 days | I really liked Joe's setup this weekend.
I REALLY liked the price tag.
Now if I can just find one of those blowers.
So far Craigslist is a bust.
That brings up a good question though...how much air should this thing be pushing?
How powerful of a blower should I be looking at? |
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12-02-2008, 10:27 PM
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Name: Dennis City: Ivan's Corner (Monroe) State: NC County: Union Join Date: Jan 2007 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 6.92 over 180 days | I built one similar to Joe's a few months ago. It used a 3 speed blower I got at a garage sale for $5. Filters are in a 'v' behind the blower & it uses 2 - 20 x 20 filters (same size as my house). I used a 3 way switch & have lo & medium speeds. High would be too much for this unit. Had to put a grille on the discharge to provide back pressure to keep the motor from overloading. It has a shelf above, rollers, and the top doubles as an outfeed table. I'll say like Travis, stay away from 3/4" plywood - but it was all I had & it was free! I'll try & post some pics soon.
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12-02-2008, 10:36 PM
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Name: George City: Oxford State: NC County: Granville Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 69 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 6.84 over 180 days | Originally Posted by DaveO But I like to be able to set it to turn off after 2 hours from leaving the shop.
Other than the electronic controls it's a box with a fan in it, and filters....very simple.
Dave  I made mine from a free squirrel cage fan from the HVAC shop and wired it through a spring loaded wall switch (about $12 from Lowes) that allows me to turn the switch for anything up to 8 hours before shut off or steady on. If you make it portable, you can put the switch on the side of the case and run your power cord from the switch to the wall.
George
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12-02-2008, 10:57 PM
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Name: Jeremy City: Charlotte State: NC County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 30 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 6.84 over 180 days | |
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12-02-2008, 10:58 PM
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Name: Joe City: Holly Springs State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 66 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 7.04 over 180 days | Originally Posted by lottathought I really liked Joe's setup this weekend.
I REALLY liked the price tag.
Now if I can just find one of those blowers.
So far Craigslist is a bust.
That brings up a good question though...how much air should this thing be pushing?
How powerful of a blower should I be looking at? Call a couple of Heat & Air contractors. You might get lucky! |
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12-02-2008, 11:02 PM
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Name: Andy City: Cary State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Mar 2008 Age: 50 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 6.03 over 180 days | I have one of these: http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx...fcode=05INFROO
And it works pretty well. A much lower proce tag than the Jet and (IMO) pretty similar functionality. |
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12-04-2008, 10:08 PM
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Name: Alan Schaffter City: Washington State: NC County: Beaufort Join Date: Dec 2005 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 6.73 over 180 days | Some excellent ideas- not much new to offer but to summarize what I think are right on for a good, inexpensive air cleaner if you don't have the floor space:
- get a salvaged freebie 3 speed blower from your local HVAC guy
- make a light housing, don't use 3/4" ply if it will be ceiling mounted.
- If ceiling mounted, don't mount directly, hang using rubber straps, bungees, shock mounts, etc. to reduce chance of vibration noise.
- Use a mechanical timer instead of a switch to let it run a little after you leave the shop.
A few ideas of my own:
- Check out aftermarket 3 speed fan remote controls (available at Lowes, etc.). If the rating will handle the HVAC blower this gives you remote three speed capability.
- Size it to use available filters- maybe even the pocket filters for the store bought units.
- If you use regular HVAC filters get the washable ones.
Also, as Gotcha6 said, HVAC blowers and DC blowers need some resistance or they can over-speed and burn up the motor. |
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12-04-2008, 10:12 PM
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Name: Michael City: Pfafftown State: NC County: Forsyth Join Date: Oct 2008 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 7.00 over 97 days | I gotta do something in my shop. It wasn't so bad when I could keep the windows open and use one fan to blow clean air in and another across the shop to blow air out. After working with the purpleheart tonight, I have a serious sinus headache! I was purple from head to toe when I came in... |
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