Shed Expansion Project

Tarhead · 05-11-2008, 09:37 PM

A few months back I posted a question about drying fresh cut pine I got from Randy (woodbutcher). I took the stack/sticker/ratchet strap and spray with Timbor (Borate insect treatment) advice. It was ~12% moisture level the last time I checked it. The lumber is full 2" X 4" and 2" X 6" and dryed very straight. Almost didn't want to use some of the sticks as they were quartersawn and had no knots! Amid rain, thunder, tornado warnings, hail, high winds and a trip to Kyle's here's what I've accomplished since Thursday evening:

This 5.5 X 12 ft expansion will house my wood collection and eventually house my cyclone and compressor when I move the woodshop out of the garage.

Here's what happens when you push the back of a Hitachi gas powered nail gun inside of a 16" stud cavity with your left hand and fire it...ouch:

Will be siding, hanging rafters, purlins and putting on an Ondura corrugated roof when I get back from Denvernashvegas.

WoodWrangler · 05-11-2008, 09:38 PM

Looking good, Mark. Sorry about the thumb ... ouch!

DaveO · 05-11-2008, 10:31 PM

I thought the whole reason to use a nail gun was so you didn't hit your thumb/finger with a hammer

Dave

MikeH · 05-11-2008, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by DaveO

I thought the whole reason to use a nail gun was so you didn't hit your thumb/finger with a hammer

Dave

Yeah really. It takes a real woodworker to hit his thumb with a nail gun!

Truefire · 05-11-2008, 10:59 PM

Thats cool, drying your own lumber for a project you building yourself... I know its just a good feeling only another woodyer understands... Great job.
Neat principle as well to stuff a little more tools inside or should i say your wives yard sale boxes. Ha ha ha

Glennbear · 05-12-2008, 08:33 AM

Woodworkers are a hardy breed who readily overcome weather conditions with sheer determination

I segregated my DC and compressor fom the rest of the shop and I am thankful I did, Friday I was using my air hogging pneumatic rachet gun and I think the thrumming from the compressor would have made me bonkers if it was in the main room

sapwood · 05-12-2008, 02:09 PM

Mark,
I like it . . . the shed, not the thumb!
I've wanted to make a similar addition. Your main building is T1-11, right?
How will you "flash" the roof since the siding isn't flat????
The eaves on mine only extend about 2" past building

Roger

PurpleThumb · 05-12-2008, 02:20 PM

Here's what happens when you push the back of a Hitachi gas powered nail gun inside of a 16" stud cavity with your left hand and fire it...ouch:

Now you know why my screen name is Purple Thumb!!!

Mike Davis · 05-12-2008, 02:27 PM

Roger,

You can cut a line with your skillsaw and set the flashing in the groove. Fill with clear silicone first and run a bead after it's nailed in place.

Use a 2x4 to guide the saw so the groove is straight.

Tarhead · 05-12-2008, 03:33 PM

Roger,
The siding is LP Smartsiding. Kinda like T-111 but lighter and preprimed. If you look at the top photo you'll see a joint where 2 pieces of siding meet at a vinyl 'Z' channel ~8" above the stud wall. I'll zip my circular saw through the channel and slide a piece of flashing up in the joint and apply a healthy serving of silicone above and below. Then my roofing will butt up against the main shed siding under the flashing. My eave on the main shed is a 2X4.

sapwood · 05-12-2008, 05:48 PM

Thanks Mike and Mark

Roger

meika123 · 05-13-2008, 01:34 PM

Good looking job, Mark.
This discussion started me to wondering. I recently built my closet to house my Cyclone. It is large enough to house my air compressor as well-as many of you have suggested.
My question is: how do you guys run your air inside the shop? Are you using the black iron pipe, or what. Just curious.

Tarhead · 05-13-2008, 08:36 PM

I'm using an HF blue air hose connected to my compressor for air. Nothing fancy.

meika123 · 05-13-2008, 08:41 PM

But my closet is built on to my shop, with no access to the shop. Just a door to enter the closet from the outside. What do I do in that case-just run a rigid pipe thru the wall with an air hose connection added to it?

NCPete · 05-13-2008, 08:44 PM

Dave, I think I have seen plans for plumbing air with pvc??? I KNOW I have seen some for copper, but galvanized pipe would also work, just make sure to have driers in line between the pipe and the final line to the tool.

05-11-2008, 09:38 PM	#2
WoodWrangler Member Name: Jeremy City: Charlotte State: NC County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 30 Posts: 1,835 Threads: 280	Re: Shed Expansion Project Looking good, Mark. Sorry about the thumb ... ouch!

05-11-2008, 10:31 PM	#3
DaveO Webmaster Senior Moderator Advisory Panel Name: Dave O'Nan City: Clayton State: NC County: Johnston Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 38 Posts: 10,935 Threads: 517	Re: Shed Expansion Project I thought the whole reason to use a nail gun was so you didn't hit your thumb/finger with a hammer Dave __________________ Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile Honestly Honey, that will cost around ~~$100~~ ~~$150~~ $200, and I need a few more tools. Today's mighty Oak is just yesterday's NUT that held it's ground "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." --Dr. Seuss

05-11-2008, 10:54 PM	#4
MikeH Moderator Name: Mike Hall City: Indian Trail State: NC County: Union Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 41 Posts: 2,141 Threads: 123	Re: Shed Expansion Project Originally Posted by DaveO I thought the whole reason to use a nail gun was so you didn't hit your thumb/finger with a hammer Dave Yeah really. It takes a real woodworker to hit his thumb with a nail gun! __________________ Mike __________________________________________ We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job - Sir Winston Churchill You hear that honey??? I need more tools...

05-11-2008, 10:59 PM	#5
Truefire Member Name: Chris City: Fountain State: NC County: Pitt Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 46 Threads: 15	Re: Shed Expansion Project Thats cool, drying your own lumber for a project you building yourself... I know its just a good feeling only another woodyer understands... Great job. Neat principle as well to stuff a little more tools inside or should i say your wives yard sale boxes. Ha ha ha

05-12-2008, 08:33 AM	#6
Glennbear Member Name: Glenn City: Baskerville State: VA County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 59 Posts: 708 Threads: 62	Re: Shed Expansion Project Woodworkers are a hardy breed who readily overcome weather conditions with sheer determination I segregated my DC and compressor fom the rest of the shop and I am thankful I did, Friday I was using my air hogging pneumatic rachet gun and I think the thrumming from the compressor would have made me bonkers if it was in the main room __________________ " I get knocked down but I get up again" - Chumbawamba

05-11-2008, 09:37 PM	#1
Tarhead Member Name: Mark Fogleman City: Concord State: NC County: Cabarrus Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 53 Posts: 1,005 Threads: 149	A few months back I posted a question about drying fresh cut pine I got from Randy (woodbutcher). I took the stack/sticker/ratchet strap and spray with Timbor (Borate insect treatment) advice. It was ~12% moisture level the last time I checked it. The lumber is full 2" X 4" and 2" X 6" and dryed very straight. Almost didn't want to use some of the sticks as they were quartersawn and had no knots! Amid rain, thunder, tornado warnings, hail, high winds and a trip to Kyle's here's what I've accomplished since Thursday evening: This 5.5 X 12 ft expansion will house my wood collection and eventually house my cyclone and compressor when I move the woodshop out of the garage. Here's what happens when you push the back of a Hitachi gas powered nail gun inside of a 16" stud cavity with your left hand and fire it...ouch: Will be siding, hanging rafters, purlins and putting on an Ondura corrugated roof when I get back from Denvernashvegas.

05-12-2008, 02:09 PM	#7
sapwood Moderator Advisory Panel Name: Roger Deese City: Durham State: NC County: Durham Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 62 Posts: 5,055 Threads: 187	Re: Shed Expansion Project Mark, I like it . . . the shed, not the thumb! I've wanted to make a similar addition. Your main building is T1-11, right? How will you "flash" the roof since the siding isn't flat???? The eaves on mine only extend about 2" past building Roger __________________ I ain't never had too much fun!

05-12-2008, 02:20 PM	#8
PurpleThumb Member Name: Jerry Grant City: Asheville State: NC County: Buncombe Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 137 Threads: 2	Re: Shed Expansion Project Here's what happens when you push the back of a Hitachi gas powered nail gun inside of a 16" stud cavity with your left hand and fire it...ouch: Now you know why my screen name is Purple Thumb!!!

05-12-2008, 02:27 PM	#9
Mike Davis Member Name: Mike City: Westfield State: NC County: Stokes Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 51 Posts: 615 Threads: 44	Re: Shed Expansion Project Roger, You can cut a line with your skillsaw and set the flashing in the groove. Fill with clear silicone first and run a bead after it's nailed in place. Use a 2x4 to guide the saw so the groove is straight.

05-12-2008, 03:33 PM	#10
Tarhead Member Name: Mark Fogleman City: Concord State: NC County: Cabarrus Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 53 Posts: 1,005 Threads: 149	Re: Shed Expansion Project Roger, The siding is LP Smartsiding. Kinda like T-111 but lighter and preprimed. If you look at the top photo you'll see a joint where 2 pieces of siding meet at a vinyl 'Z' channel ~8" above the stud wall. I'll zip my circular saw through the channel and slide a piece of flashing up in the joint and apply a healthy serving of silicone above and below. Then my roofing will butt up against the main shed siding under the flashing. My eave on the main shed is a 2X4.

05-12-2008, 05:48 PM	#11
sapwood Moderator Advisory Panel Name: Roger Deese City: Durham State: NC County: Durham Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 62 Posts: 5,055 Threads: 187	Re: Shed Expansion Project Thanks Mike and Mark Roger __________________ I ain't never had too much fun!

05-13-2008, 01:34 PM	#12
meika123 Member Name: Dave Snider City: Advance State: NC County: Davie Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 64 Posts: 157 Threads: 46	Re: Shed Expansion Project Good looking job, Mark. This discussion started me to wondering. I recently built my closet to house my Cyclone. It is large enough to house my air compressor as well-as many of you have suggested. My question is: how do you guys run your air inside the shop? Are you using the black iron pipe, or what. Just curious. __________________ Dave in NC "A man's gotta know his limitations"!

05-13-2008, 08:36 PM	#13
Tarhead Member Name: Mark Fogleman City: Concord State: NC County: Cabarrus Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 53 Posts: 1,005 Threads: 149	Re: Shed Expansion Project I'm using an HF blue air hose connected to my compressor for air. Nothing fancy.

05-13-2008, 08:41 PM	#14
meika123 Member Name: Dave Snider City: Advance State: NC County: Davie Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 64 Posts: 157 Threads: 46	Re: Shed Expansion Project But my closet is built on to my shop, with no access to the shop. Just a door to enter the closet from the outside. What do I do in that case-just run a rigid pipe thru the wall with an air hose connection added to it? __________________ Dave in NC "A man's gotta know his limitations"!

05-13-2008, 08:44 PM	#15
NCPete Moderator Name: Peter Davio City: Hope Mills State: NC County: Cumberland Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 4,591 Threads: 196	Re: Shed Expansion Project Dave, I think I have seen plans for plumbing air with pvc??? I KNOW I have seen some for copper, but galvanized pipe would also work, just make sure to have driers in line between the pipe and the final line to the tool. __________________ Failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently. – Henry Ford However your life is, meet it and live it. Henry David Thoreau They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty, nor safety. Benjamin Franklin

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