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03-09-2008, 12:38 PM
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Name: allen
City: Plymouth
State: NC
County: Washington
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air filter size
im thinking about one of those ambient air filter units that hang from the celing. was wondering hopw well they work for getting the fine dust, and also what size to look at. my shop is 32x32 with 10' celing. the small delta they sold at lowes looks kinda small. was just wondering if anyone has a filter in a comparable size shop,and how well it works. im gettin tired of the fine dust that settles EVRYWHERE 
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03-09-2008, 01:03 PM
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Name: Jimmy Coull
City: Clayton
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County: Johnston
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Re: air filter size
Allen,
A nice rule of thumb is to size the air cleaner so that it can move all of the air in your shop about 8 times an hour. So lets say your 32 x 32 shop has 8' ceilings.
32 x 32 x 8 = 8192 cu.ft.
8192 cu.ft. x 8 (times an hour) = 65,536 cu.ft./ hr.
65,536 divided by 60(mins/hr) = 1,092 cfm
So you need an air cleaner that moves around 1,100 cfm.
Hope this helps,
Jimmy
ps. 10' ceilings would need 1365 cfm using the same formula
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03-09-2008, 01:12 PM
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Name: Bas
City: Cary
State: NC
County: Wake
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Re: air filter size
I've been looking at one of those as well. If you multiply length x width x height, and want to clean the air in the shop every 10 minutes (typical for removing dust), you'd need a system with a capacity of 1024cfm (32 * 32 * 10 * 6 / 60). The JDS 10-16 should do the job, but it's not cheap (almost $700). The JET AFS-1500 claims 1300cfm, that should just be enough, slightly cheaper at $485.
You might be better off with two of the smaller JET models, good airflow is very important and it might be easier to accomplish that with two units. After the $25 rebates, both machines would cost you $410. The Delta at Lowe's is definitely too small for a shop your size.
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03-09-2008, 01:27 PM
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Name: Howard
City: Bolivia
State: NC
County: Brunswick
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Re: air filter size
The two most important criteria for an air cleaner are the CFM and the filters. You want a CFM factor that will clean the size of your shop and a filter that removes the particle size that you are concerned about.
To determine the size or required air flow, use this formula: Volume of your shop (Length x width x Height) times Number of air changes per hour--typically 6 - 8--divided by 60. This will give you an answer in Cubic Feet per Minute which is how air cleaners are measured. MOST AIR CLEANER MANUFACTURERS RATE THE CFM OF THE FAN ONLY, but there are losses due to the filters. If you are building your own or if the air cleaner you are purchasing rates only the fan, figure you will lose about 25 - 40% for filtering losses.
As important as the air cleaner size is how and where you mount it. Try to mount at about 8-10 feet above the floor (no lower than 6'or 2/3 of the floor to ceiling distance if less than 8' ceiling). Mount along the longest wall so the intake is approximately 1/3 the distance from the shorter wall. Mount no further than 4-6 inches from the wall.
The exhaust is the largest determiner of the circulation pattern. You are trying to encourage circulation parallel to the floor/ceiling so ceiling mounting is not recommended. Use a smoke stick (or a cigar) to observe and maximize circulation. Use a secondary fan to direct air to the intake if necessary. Also, consider that a standard 24" floor fan moves a lot of air and, in some shops, just positioning it in a doorway with a window or other door open can accomplish as much or more than an air cleaner. It's all in the circulation patterns.
The exhaust is the clean air so that is where you want to position yourself. Do not place the air cleaner over the a dust producer. That will guarantee that the operator will be in direct line between the dust producer and the air cleaner. The operator wants to be in the clean air stream. If the dust has to pass your nose to get to the air cleaner, you get no benefits. If you have an odd shaped shop, two smaller units may be better than one large one.
DO NOT RELY ON A AIR CLEANER TO ACT AS A DUST COLLECTOR. The purpose of and air cleaner is to keep airborne dust in suspension and reduce airborne dust as quickly as possible AFTER THE DUST PRODUCER HAS BEEN TURNED OFF.
Finally, if you are looking for health benefits, you will not find any air cleaner manufacturer that makes health claims because there are few health benefits. CATCHING DUST AT IT'S SOURCE IS THE BEST LONG TERM GOAL. Rick Peters', author of "Controlling Dust in the Workshop", makes the point that spending your money getting the dust at its source is a better investment than trying to capture it after it is already airborne. If the dust is in the air, it's going to be in your nose and lungs too.
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03-09-2008, 02:16 PM
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Name: Rob
City: Hendersonville
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Re: air filter size
Excellent post, Howard -- folks must remember that capturing the dust at the source is critically important -- once it is airborne, one's lungs are working at removing it from the air unless an appropriate dust mask is worn. A whole shop air filtration unit with good filters is great for addressing the "fugutive" dust that escapes one's primary DC system, but it should never be one's primary defense.
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