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08-08-2008, 03:03 PM
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Name: Marco Principio City: Durham State: NC County: Durham Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 29 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Grizzly has a tormek clone that was actually rated pretty highly in one of the online comparisons I read, and it's on sale right now. Check it out here http://www.grizzly.com/products/item...ampaign=T10010
If anyone has one of these (or the harbor freight version) let me know how it performs as I am pretty interested in a poor man's tormek. 
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08-08-2008, 03:22 PM
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Name: Jeremy City: Charlotte State: NC County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 30 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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One concern I would have would be the quality of the stone. They may look the same, but trust me there are HUGE stone differences out there. I had a german-made clone and it worked great, but boy did that stone wear fast! I now have a Tormek and the stone is much harder and doesn't leave as much of the stone particles in the water with each sharpening. And if you check out the price of a stone ... you'll see they ain't cheap!
I've heard the same is true with the Jet (lesser quality stone is where some money savings was made). Now, that's hearsay, so do some research and make your own decision.
With all of that said ... if you are only sharpening plane irons and chisels, and don't want to spend $300-$500 on a Tormek, the Grizzly might be a good deal. | |
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08-08-2008, 04:41 PM
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Name: Jimmy Coull City: Clayton State: NC County: Johnston Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 49 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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One of the magazines recently gave the Griz a 'best bet' in the wet stone category and the Worksharp 3000 a 'best bet' in the dry category.
I just found the magazine it is WoodWorkers Journal Aug. 2008.
Jimmy 
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08-08-2008, 06:10 PM
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Name: Jeremy City: Charlotte State: NC County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 30 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.88 over 180 days | Originally Posted by JimmyC  One of the magazines recently gave the Griz a 'best bet' in the wet stone category and the Worksharp 3000 a 'best bet' in the dry category.
I just found the magazine it is WoodWorkers Journal Aug. 2008.
Jimmy Well, there you have it ... an endorsement by a magazine .gif "Drogar Laugh(DBG)")
Honestly, after looking at the Grizzly one it's definately a Tormek-style clone, but more directly a rebranded Scheppach Tiger 2000 (even to the degree Grizzly says 'made in Germany'). How's this for a clone-job? http://www.amazon.com/Scheppach-Vert.../dp/B000BOLGE4
EXCEPT the Scheppach Tiger 2000 is now CHEAPER!!! (It used to be $300 and is listed for $134 today!)
The Scheppach Tiger 2000 is the one I had previously. It's a good system, as I mentioned and I was happy with it, except for the stone hardness. However, if I were aware of that when I bought it I could have been more senstive to it (like not sharpening bowl gouges -- which ultimately made a grove through the entire stone) | |
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08-08-2008, 11:53 PM
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Name: Jimmy Coull City: Clayton State: NC County: Johnston Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 49 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by WoodWrangler Honestly, after looking at the Grizzly one it's definately a Tormek-style clone, but more directly a rebranded Scheppach Tiger 2000 (even to the degree Grizzly says 'made in Germany'). How's this for a clone-job? http://www.amazon.com/Scheppach-Vert.../dp/B000BOLGE4 EXCEPT the Scheppach Tiger 2000 is now CHEAPER!!! (It used to be $300 and is listed for $134 today!)
The Scheppach Tiger 2000 is the one I had previously. It's a good system, as I mentioned and I was happy with it, except for the stone hardness. However, if I were aware of that when I bought it I could have been more senstive to it (like not sharpening bowl gouges -- which ultimately made a grove through the entire stone)
Don't buy the Sheppach, it's a piece of garbage. As far as a comparison to the Grizzly there is none, The Grizzly has a 2" x 10" grinding wheel and the Sheppach has a 1" x 8" wheel that is made of subpar material. It seems that it usually needs to be dressed out of the box . By the way, ikt doesn't come with a dressing wheel.
Go for the Grizzly, and if you are only going to do chisels and plane blades go for the Worksharp.
Jimmy
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08-09-2008, 09:26 AM
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Name: Jeremy City: Charlotte State: NC County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 30 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Good points ... and true. However, I don't think it's garbage. Afterall, I had one and it did make my tools sharp enough to shave the hair off my arm with very little effort or setup. The subpar stone though is what ruined it for me ...
The Worksharp is interesting, to the point I wouldn't mind adding one to my shop to play with -- especially smaller chisels ... but by the time you get it and the accessories, you could have a Tormek (I bought a used Tormek with a bunch of jigs in brand-new condition for $300 -- so I know they are out there). | |
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08-09-2008, 10:49 AM
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Name: Mark City: Concord State: NC County: Cabarrus Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 53 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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If you want dirt cheap check out the bottom coupon: http://www.harborfreightusa.com/html...a_cpnsave.html
I think it's a clone of a clone of a clone | |
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08-09-2008, 11:37 AM
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Name: Jimmy Coull City: Clayton State: NC County: Johnston Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 49 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by WoodWrangler Good points ... and true. However, I don't think it's garbage. Afterall, I had one and it did make my tools sharp enough to shave the hair off my arm with very little effort or setup. The subpar stone though is what ruined it for me ...
The Worksharp is interesting, to the point I wouldn't mind adding one to my shop to play with -- especially smaller chisels ... but by the time you get it and the accessories, you could have a Tormek (I bought a used Tormek with a bunch of jigs in brand-new condition for $300 -- so I know they are out there). I wouldn't mind a Tormek if the price were right , but I've seen Bas's demo on the Worksharp, and I have a Drill Doctor(same company), So I know the system is idiot proof and for me. Besides I have all of my other type of blades sharpened at Raleigh Saw, so it's all I would probably need.
Jimmy
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08-09-2008, 11:58 AM
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Name: Jeremy City: Charlotte State: NC County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 30 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by Vanilla Gorilla Grizzly has a tormek clone that was actually rated pretty highly in one of the online comparisons I read, and it's on sale right now. Check it out here http://www.grizzly.com/products/item...ampaign=T10010
If anyone has one of these (or the harbor freight version) let me know how it performs as I am pretty interested in a poor man's tormek. What do you want to sharpen? Chisels? Plane irons? Lathe chisels? Knifes? Fingernails? | |
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08-09-2008, 02:16 PM
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Name: Danny City: Seagrove State: NC County: Montgomery Join Date: Oct 2006 Age: 52 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by JimmyC I wouldn't mind a Tormek if the price were right , but I've seen Bas's demo on the Worksharp, and I have a Drill Doctor(same company), So I know the system is idiot proof and for me. Besides I have all of my other type of blades sharpened at Raleigh Saw, so it's all I would probably need.
Jimmy So what you are saying is that if Bas can use the Worksharp, That anyone can? 
Danny
Sorry Bas.  | |
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08-09-2008, 04:56 PM
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Name: Roger City: Durham State: NC County: Durham Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 62 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by Partman So what you are saying is that if Bas can use the Worksharp, That anyone can?
Danny
Sorry Bas. Heck, even me Danny 
Haven't tried the free hand sharpening yet, but it's almost idiot proof 
Roger
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