Potential Raleigh Oak Lumber Run.

[Bas]

Jeff, I suggest that you bring a bunch of keyboards to the lumber run, nothing fancy, just pick 'em up at the local computer outlet store. My guess is you'll sell ALL OF THEM, since half of North Carolina Woodworker has just ruined their keyboards drooling over all those lumber pictures

[Jeff]

We had a nice time sawing timber. I found it informative, interesting, and hard work. I learned (or saw a lot of expertise). If ya don't like hard work then don't go there. It's interesting to see a tree go to rough cut lumber and much before we even put it to use in our shop.

Thanks to Jeff & Jim for being patient with a novice. I hope to help out and learn more in the coming weeks.

[jeff...]

More wooodworking pics from today. Jim had to cut out early - It's his night to fix dinner and he takes it very seriously


Did someone say QSRO don't have much Ray Fleck?




Got another trailer shuffled in - Diving Boards on the Left / QSRO on the right.


Member Jeff he showed up again today to help. I think he really likes sawing




It looks like it's defiantly going to be a lumber run now

[TracyP]

Alright, I think someone else can hold the camera. We gotta have a picture of you working at least a little.

[max_in_graham]

Actually, the workin' pix I can forgo...


It's you pulling that trailer loaded with all that oak, that I'd love to see pulling down my drive!

THAT's the picture I'd like to see.....

(btw... I'll take two keyboards. One for the one I've already drooled on, and might as well get a spare for the rest of the pix, yet to come!)

[woodrat]

Has a price been set for any of this wood? I might be interested
if I knew how hard it was gonna hit me.

Thanks,

[skysharks]

Jeff up dates the front page of this entry to the forums.
He states that he hasn't figured out a price yet.

I'll keep track of time and materials and put together a price that fair to everyone - what exactly the price will be I can't say right now.

[zapdafish]

if there is any more available, id like to go in for 100 bft of QS RO.


thnx..Steve

[jeff...]

Thanks for all the replies - Honestly I don't think I'll have the time needed to log or saw any of the WO for this kiln cycle. We have not even got to where the WO are yet. We've spent all our time logging and sawing RO. I think I may have under estimated the amount of RO that was down the first time Jim and I walked the woods. There are a few trees down on the other side of his property that we have not got to yet and I think they are WO's. We are doing our best to use all the wood that can be sawn into lumber. I really hate wasting wood, a tree grow all those years the least I can do is show it some respect and saw out of it what can be sawn - you know?

Scott was kind enough to reserve me a kiln cycle starting the first or second week in September, that means I've got about 3 weeks left to fill up Scott's kiln to 4000 BF. We have a good 2500 BF cut already. Jim and I are taking down a load this weekend it's somewhere around 1500 BF. There is another 1000 or so on Jim's trailer that we will need to stack on my trailer because his is overloaded. So with two trailers now full, we shuffled in my bobcat trailer this evening and we are stacking it now.

I know I'll have to take at least two more trailer loads to Scott in the next few weeks and I hate to say it's but it's going to have to be all RO. Out of the 4000 or so BF of 4/4 - I would say around 2/3rds or so will be QS the rest will be flat sawn. We are QS'ing the logs that are right for QS'ing and flat sawing the others. Then there is about 500 BF of the 8/4 by 24" wide WO diving boards - I think Scott's kiln will be busting at the seams.

Anyways I have another job lined up after I'm finished out at Jim's. It's quite a bit bigger, thinning out 3 acres of mature hardwoods to make room for a cow pasture. what exactly this means I'm not sure but I'm buying a case of tree marking paint so the land owner can mark the ones he wants taken down . I don't have a hard and fast start time on the next job but would like to get started on it sooner than later because me doing this in my spare time is going to take some time to finish. Expect some future lumber runs out of the cow pasture thinning job.

I need to talk with Jim and figure out if he wants to keep logging and sawing the windthrow tornado trees or if he wants to call it quits after we finish sawing up the RO, that we've already logged. If Jim wants to continue that's fine with me, he's an awesome guy to hang around with and I really enjoy working with him, he's taught me a ton. But I can also understand if he doesn't want to continue. I mean wrestling with logs and green lumber is not easy work.

I think I need a vacation

Thanks

[sawduster]

I would say you deserve one bro !!
In fact both of you do

.....you have our permission

[Mike Gilley]

I agree with Robert, you definitely deserve a long vacation Jeff!


Concerning the RO instead of WO, it doesn't make that much of a difference to me.
I can wait for the WO, and would be more then happy to change my order from 50bf of QSRO to 150bf - 200bf of QSRO, if that will make it any easier on you.

I'll take what ever you can get to us, but I don't want to see you burning yourself out either.
If you can get to the WO, great! If not, that's okay too, there will be other opportunities further down the road.

Regards,
Mike

[jeff...]

Jim and I took the first load down to Scott yesterday, about 1500 BF or so. The first 1500 BF comprised of about 500 BF of 8/4" x 24" x 12' WO diving boards and around 1000 BF of 100% 4/4 QSRO. There is some really nice stuff in there and some stuff that's good - we culled anything that was bad. The next two loads will consist all 4/4 RO most of which will be QS the rest FS - I want to make the FS load the last to be delivered to Scott so it goes on to his kiln carts first. FS has a tendency to want to move more than QS. So the weight of the QS on top of the FS should help minimize FS movment. I hope to get the other two loads down to Scott's next weekend. It's just a matter of replacing a tire on my trailer that shed some thread from yesterdays trip and fixing a flat on the other side (think I may have picked up a nail?)

Anyways Jim and I have a good 1700 BF of 4/4 RO cut and stacked on two other trailers that we need to transfer to my trailer to deliver to Scott. That should put our total to somewhere around 3200 (500 in 8/4 WO diving boards and 2200 in 4/4 RO). We also have 1/2 a dozen or so RO logs left to flat saw and two more butt logs plus on right above one of the butt in the woods. The three are down in the ravine in the woods and are too big for my bobcat to pick up without it tipping forward. We are going to try and chain some weight to the back of the bobcat to hopefully counter balance the bobcat and be able to move the logs out of the woods and up to the sawmill. If that don't work I'll skid them out with the with the bobcat - I just don't like doing that because of all the mud and dirt that get's into the bark. When we get those three out they should QS saw out at least another 500 BF (they are pretty big).

those 3 big logs plus the 1/2 a dozen or so logs left to flat saw should put us in excess of 4000 BF if not there are a few more RO trees left to pull out of the woods.

So all in all things are coming together - working part time for a few hours at night 3 or 4 nights a week plus and a little on Saturday seems to be keeping us on schedule.

Now that we are closing in on the end of the job - I'll be determining pricing and will post it in the next few days.

[Mike Davis]

Jeff,

With the price of gas still high and the distance so great plus a thousand other things going on in my life I doubt that I will get to come to Raleigh any time this year or maybe next.

So, go ahead and take my name off the list.

If anything changes for the better maybe I can get in on the cow pasture run.

Thanks!

[jeff...]

Talked with Jim - looks like I'll be staying out there a little while longer - that's a good thing cause the saw mill is finally starting to settle

[jeff...]

I sat down and did my best at calculating prices - keep in mind besides for the White Oak diving boards (24" wide) the rest is all 4/4 Red Oak. We have QS'ed at least 2/3rds and the rest has been flat sawn. To cut to the chase there is some real nice lumber in this run and some that is average, we culled anything that was bad.

I selected 5 retail lumber yards around the area and averaged pricing. The pricing I came up with was significantly lower than lowest price from the 5 lumber yards and well below the average. The way I'm figuring it is the WO diving boards will go for right around $3.00 a BF. High grade 4/4 QSRO will need to go for right around $2.90 a BF, lower grade QSWO right around 2.00 a BF. The Flat Sawn Red Oak for around $1.50. When you guys pick out your boards we'll do what is far.

I don't expect anyone to feel obligated in anyway shape of form. I like to operate on the if you like the board buy it - if not that's cool too, you guys know what you need and can work with. Also keep in mind Jim (member insteadof) get's his 500 BF of 4/4 QSRO right off the top. We'll most likely mark his lumber as it's going into Scott's kiln so it won't get it confused with any of the others the others.


* 8/4 FSWO 24" wide - 8 to 10' long $3.00 a BF

* Various width 4/4 QSRO - 8' long $2.90 ~ $2.00 a BF - based on what we agree is fair when you pick out your lumber.

* Various width 4/4 FSRO - 8' long $1.50 a BF

Keep in mind - 3500 BF is a big pile of lumber - I'm afraid I would be stacked to high and not make it under the electric lines Seriously I don't want to drive overloaded - So we'll need to break it up into two runs.

There is still a lot of logs left to saw at Jim's - I don't know if there is enough to scrape together another 4000 BF or not but I'm going to stay on @ Jims till we get the tornado mess cleaned up. So expect some more lumber to come...

Now that I have finally got a handle on pricing - those of you who I have listed on the first post of this thread please either re-confirm - that you can take red oak and your still ok with your order or reply to this thread and let me know if you want to pass. I'll update the first post in this thread as you reply.

Thanks