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08-27-2006, 11:26 PM
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Re: pictorial milling of American elm crotch log
Ray honestly I'm not really sure why it's so high in demand for electric guitars. However I can say it's freaking heavy and hard as a rock. The sapwood reminds me a lot of maple, so it most likely has some acoustic quality that sets it apart from other woods. A guitar player knows by the way a guitar sounds whether it's a plywood or real wood body electric guitar. From what I'm told this wood has that "unique" sound, whatever that means. I don't think it has much to do with the playability of the guitar persay but more of the sound the wood produces. Then again I could be all wet too. 
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08-28-2006, 08:25 AM
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Re: pictorial milling of American elm crotch log
I once heard Dr Bose say that in order to get all of the sound out of a speaker (and out of the speaker box), that the box had to be a very hard material. He offered the example of making a great sounding speker out of bricks. Maybe if the body is harder, it will absorb less so more of the sound energy is available to the pickups. ... and since I know nothing about musical instruments, this is all wild guessing on my part.
but thanks for the photos... the wood is beautiful and I didn't know just how much went into cutting up a big log.
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08-28-2006, 03:58 PM
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Re: pictorial milling of American elm crotch log
Ray, What your saying makes perfect sense to me...
I felt it would be right to let everyone know the remainder of the lumber from this log has been sold. I'll end up slicing a few more 9/4 slabs off the two remaining sides, but after that the rest has been spoken for.
If someone is looking for 24" long, 14 - 16" wide and 9/4" thick guitar blanks, I will have lots of them forsale. Or I could resaw 9/4 into 2 4/4 book matched sets too, however those would need to be sold in 2' increments starting at 4'.
Thanks
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08-28-2006, 07:16 PM
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Re: pictorial milling of American elm crotch log
Some more pics this is side 3 with slab 1 and 2 removed
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08-28-2006, 07:30 PM
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Re: pictorial milling of American elm crotch log
Another view of side 3 and side 4 with slabs removed. Not much intrest on side 4, other than a hint of splattering. The cant is now 12 1/8" by 12 1/2", usally in logs this old there is a little heart rot near the butt, but I have not seen any yet 
Now I'll go back and look through the pictures and study all 4 sides. I need to determine which side to face up to produce the best lumber. I'm kinda favoring side 3 at the moment.
Please help me determine the side to fcae up, is it 1, 2, 3 or 4?
Thanks for looking...
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08-28-2006, 09:04 PM
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Re: pictorial milling of American elm crotch log
I like 3 too! 
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08-28-2006, 09:29 PM
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Re: pictorial milling of American elm crotch log
Im voting on 3 too. I wish I knew how to play guitar, so I could be the one wailing on a guitar made of that awesome wood  . Be blessed bro
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08-28-2006, 09:42 PM
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Re: pictorial milling of American elm crotch log
Side 3 looks the most interesting
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08-28-2006, 10:46 PM
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Re: pictorial milling of American elm crotch log
I scrolled back through the thread to get a perspective on all the sides, and I have to say I am partial to side described as #2 in post #10.
That side seems to have the most color and straightest grain....but it could just be the pictures.
Dave 
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08-29-2006, 06:49 PM
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Re: pictorial milling of American elm crotch log
Found a little mill time and flipped over the cant. With side 3 up, took off one 2" thick board. Nice gain on this board, lots of heart wood, a little over 12" wide...
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08-29-2006, 06:56 PM
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Re: pictorial milling of American elm crotch log
Jeff
The color and grain look awesome 
Nick
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08-29-2006, 07:26 PM
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Re: pictorial milling of American elm crotch log
Beautiful stuff Jeff! Thanks for sharing the excitement.
Roger
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08-29-2006, 09:29 PM
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Re: pictorial milling of American elm crotch log
Managed to finsh sawing this bad boy up today here's the next 8/4 board and a 12/4.
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08-29-2006, 09:52 PM
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Re: pictorial milling of American elm crotch log
The last 8/4. Log produced a bunch of 9/4 slabs, four 8/4 x 12 and one 12/4 x 12 15 foot long mostly heart wood boards or (165 BF). I'm estimating somewhere around 400BF of 9/4 slabs. But will know better once I edge them all.
Just incase I ever doubt how accurate my Wood Mizer mill is, here's a pic of an 1/8 thick piece of veneer. Am. elm bends real well at 1/8 inch thick. I try and cut a thin piece like this off each different species I mill. I tack a small piece of it on the wall of my office. Every so often I’ll look up at them and dwell a little on memories, sounds wierd don't it?
This concludes the pictorial, hope you enjoyed it as much as I did.
Thanks for looking...
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08-29-2006, 10:23 PM
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Re: pictorial milling of American elm crotch log
Originally Posted by jeff...
Ray, What your saying makes perfect sense to me...
I felt it would be right to let everyone know the remainder of the lumber from this log has been sold. I'll end up slicing a few more 9/4 slabs off the two remaining sides, but after that the rest has been spoken for.
If someone is looking for 24" long, 14 - 16" wide and 9/4" thick guitar blanks, I will have lots of them forsale. Or I could resaw 9/4 into 2 4/4 book matched sets too, however those would need to be sold in 2' increments starting at 4'.
Thanks
Jeff,
Beautiful looking wood. I like it a lot. Are all of the 9/4 slabs into the sapwood?
Thanks for sharing the discovery process.
Chuck
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