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07-19-2008, 10:39 PM
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Name: Dave City: Stokesdale State: NC County: Guilford Join Date: Mar 2008 Age: 33 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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As some of you may remember I have a stack of Red Oak drying in my garage from a tree that came down in my yard. It is down to ~ 14% MC according to the El Cheapo meter I bought.
I have started milling down some of the boards to see what I have (and to practice working with my new jointer and planer). I am seeing some insect damage on a lot of the boards. How much damage varies quite a bit depending on the board, but some of it looks pretty bad to me.
My question is, what would you do with these holes if you wanted to use the wood? Also, how much damage before you would consider it scrap?   |  
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07-19-2008, 10:49 PM
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Name: DaveO City: Clayton State: NC County: Johnston Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 38 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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The answer to one of your questions lies in what you're going to make with them. If it's a rustic piece, you've got it made. I've heard of folks drilling faux bug holes in wood for that rustic look. Wormy Chestnut, and Pecky Cypress are high dollar stock. If you're wanting to make something more refined, then the stock might not be desirable. The holes can be filled, and how you go about that will depend on your finishing plans. If it's going to be a clear film finish, some CA and sawdust will work great. If it's going to be stained or otherwise colored then you'll want to mix some colorant with your filler material.
I would never consider the wood scrap, it can always be used for a shop project where appearance isn't as important as functionality and strength.
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07-19-2008, 11:35 PM
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Name: jeff... City: Stovall State: NC County: Granville Join Date: Mar 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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That's actually not that bad - flood the holes with thin CA, shoot with accelerator, sand and finish...
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07-20-2008, 02:23 AM
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Name: Bas City: Cary State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 35 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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It'd only be scrap if bug holes are causing structural issues (i.e. the wood is crumbling). Anything less is "character" Actually, even if you do you use it for a real furniture piece, there are always parts that aren't visible, or barely visible. Every project needs a little extra for setup, and as Dave mentioned, there are always shop projects. I wouldn't use it for a table top, but for anything else, it looks good to me.
Actually, strike all that. The bug holes make the lumber worthless. I'll be happy to dispose of it for you, just drop it by my place and I'll take care of all the hard work. 
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07-22-2008, 12:31 PM
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Name: Dave City: Stokesdale State: NC County: Guilford Join Date: Mar 2008 Age: 33 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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DaveO, at my current skil level all of my projects are " Rustic"! 
Newbie question:
What is an example of CA (i.e. brandname)? | |
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07-22-2008, 05:10 PM
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Name: Jeremy City: Charlotte State: NC County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 30 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by davejones  Newbie question:
What is an example of CA (i.e. brandname)? CA = Cyanoacrylate = Super Glue
You can pick it up at Woodcraft along with some accelerator. | |
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07-22-2008, 05:11 PM
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Name: Jeremy City: Charlotte State: NC County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 30 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Question about these bug holes ...
Do they happen when the wood was still a tree, or after being cut and awaiting drying?
I have several cherry boards like this and it frustrates me to all end. | |
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07-22-2008, 05:19 PM
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Name: jeff... City: Stovall State: NC County: Granville Join Date: Mar 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Both but mainly while the tree is still standing. Besides without the bugs you would miss out on some pretty wood - Ambrosia Maple / Sycamore comes to mind.
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07-22-2008, 05:21 PM
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Name: Dave City: Stokesdale State: NC County: Guilford Join Date: Mar 2008 Age: 33 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by WoodWrangler Question about these bug holes ...
Do they happen when the wood was still a tree, or after being cut and awaiting drying?
I have several cherry boards like this and it frustrates me to all end.
These happened while it was still a tree. The base of the tree was completely eaten up (which is why it fell). I thought the upper sections of the tree were still solid, but obviously there was some damage. | |
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07-24-2008, 08:14 AM
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Name: Barry City: Davidson State: NC County: Cabarrus Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 39 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by WoodWrangler Question about these bug holes ...
Do they happen when the wood was still a tree, or after being cut and awaiting drying?
I have several cherry boards like this and it frustrates me to all end. There were quite a few of those types of holes in the Cherry I am using to build the crib and I incorporated them in to the piece. Those pieces are mostly used for the undersides or backsides of the crib. Except for a piece on one of the sides that got past quality control but it actually looks nice. Really need to fire the quality control guy!
My FIL came up one evening last week and was looking at the progress of the crib. I was showing him all the flaws I could see and he just listens then says 'those are what makes it unique and not a bought piece'.
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