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06-04-2008, 05:12 PM
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Name: Tom Dunn City: Duncan State: NC County: Harnett county Join Date: Apr 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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At the picnic there was a gentleman(Woodart perhaps?) that had a back slat with him for a rocker. Beautifull wood!
As I recall, it was sycamore, but, on another site, a guy said that sycamore was pretty much useless for furniture.
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06-04-2008, 05:19 PM
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Name: Mike City: Westfield State: NC County: Stokes Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 51 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Did he say why sycamore is useless for furniture?
Could be that he never saw any. 
Actually it is great for furniture.
Check out this rocker! http://www.ncwoodworker.net/forums/f...ycamore+rocker | |
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06-04-2008, 05:23 PM
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Name: Tom Dunn City: Duncan State: NC County: Harnett county Join Date: Apr 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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That rocker is outstanding!
I have no idea why he thought sycamore was useless, perhaps he's the one confused on wood types? The quality of info passed on the 'net varies widely....but you know that....  | |
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06-04-2008, 05:27 PM
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Name: jeff... City: Stovall State: NC County: Granville Join Date: Mar 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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That was Touchwood (Don Patterson) who had the back for one of his rockers and yes it was Quarter Sawn Sycamore and yes it is beautiful. As far as Quarter Sawn Sycamore being useless for furniture - an awful lot of it has been made by members on this site.
IMHO Quarter Sawn sycamore is a very under rated wood with a bad rap.
I won't got into the reasons why because I really can't without stepping on toes. Lets just say this - it's not a throw the log on the mill, box the heart and saw down to the bed kind of wood. You must read the oval shaped grain, quarter it and pay attention to the slight spiral grain in the log "if" you expect to make any decent lumber. If your not willing to learn how to saw it or spend the time to do it right - send the log to the pallet yard because that's what the lumber will be good for.
As for Kiln Drying - I'll let Scott Smith speak to that...
Thanks
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06-04-2008, 09:37 PM
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Name: Cathy City: Forest City State: NC County: Rutherford Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 53 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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I LOVE QS sycamore. Here's the coffee table LOML made out of QSS and Walnut: 
It's grain, IMHO, is stunning. I bought this wood last year in the wood run at the picnic for something different. But how could I argue with being able to see the coffee and end tables every day????
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06-04-2008, 10:24 PM
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Name: Glenn City: Baskerville State: VA County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 59 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by jeff...  That was Touchwood (Don Patterson) who had the back for one of his rockers and yes it was Quarter Sawn Sycamore and yes it is beautiful. As far as Quarter Sawn Sycamore being useless for furniture - an awful lot of it has been made by members on this site.
IMHO Quarter Sawn sycamore is a very under rated wood with a bad rap.
I won't got into the reasons why because I really can't without stepping on toes. Lets just say this - it's not a throw the log on the mill, box the heart and saw down to the bed kind of wood. You must read the oval shaped grain, quarter it and pay attention to the slight spiral grain in the log "if" you expect to make any decent lumber. If your not willing to learn how to saw it or spend the time to do it right - send the log to the pallet yard because that's what the lumber will be good for.
As for Kiln Drying - I'll let Scott Smith speak to that...
Thanks IMHO it is the asymmetry in the grain that requires careful milling also results in the unique beauty of Cathy's tables and Touchwood's rocker.
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06-05-2008, 10:33 AM
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Name: Travis City: Wake Forest State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Dec 2005 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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The same can be said for sweet gum, but their are a lot of people that use it in furniture.
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pocket hole machine - unlikely in 2008
Festool sander and vacuum -told I don't need 2 not going to happen
Edge bander - unlikely this decade
oscillating edge sander - unlikely in 2008
floor model chisel or slot mortiser - unlikely in 2008
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06-05-2008, 01:10 PM
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Name: Mark City: Fuquay Varina State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Nov 2005 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Sounds like this is a "not available in commercial quantities" kind of wood. Lots of good woods fall into that category.
We are lucky that we have 'niche' sawyers on the board. By that I mean sawyers that will saw unusual, difficult-to-dry, small, etc. trees.
-Mark | |
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06-05-2008, 11:52 PM
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Name: jeff... City: Stovall State: NC County: Granville Join Date: Mar 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by Glennbear IMHO it is the asymmetry in the grain that requires careful milling also results in the unique beauty of Cathy's tables and Touchwood's rocker. Ok your using big words, remember I'm from Granville County, take it easy there cowboy "asymmetry"  meaning - One half of the abnormal area is different from the other half - Yep I cheated - gotta love google  BUT "abnormal area is different from the other"?  So it really means that some parts are different than the other parts - this would be considered normal, not abnormal simply because the areas are different. If they were the same it would abnormal because no two pieces of wood are the same, not even book matches - they are close but not the same. Stupid dictionary, just stupid, and think someone actually paid someone to write that mess - no wonder kids are confused now-a-days - geeeze...
Thanks
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06-06-2008, 07:47 AM
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Name: Jerry City: Raleigh State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 47 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by jeff... Ok your using big words, remember I'm from Granville County, take it easy there cowboy "asymmetry" meaning - One half of the abnormal area is different from the other half - Yep I cheated - gotta love google BUT "abnormal area is different from the other"? So it really means that some parts are different than the other parts - this would be considered normal, not abnormal simply because the areas are different. If they were the same it would abnormal because no two pieces of wood are the same, not even book matches - they are close but not the same. Stupid dictionary, just stupid, and think someone actually paid someone to write that mess - no wonder kids are confused now-a-days - geeeze...
Thanks Remember, Jeff, abnormal is only abnormal where normal is supposed to be. If abnormal is where abnormal is supposed to be, then it's normal. HTH .gif "Drogar BigGrin(DBG)")
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06-06-2008, 10:52 AM
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Name: jeff... City: Stovall State: NC County: Granville Join Date: Mar 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by jerrye Remember, Jeff, abnormal is only abnormal where normal is supposed to be. If abnormal is where abnormal is supposed to be, then it's normal. HTH Ok I'm tracking... definition: asymmetry - "One half of the abnormal area is different from the other half" So one 1/2 is normal and one 1/2 is abnormal - this is normal and to be expected with any wood. but the problem with the definition is it leaves it up to personal belief. If you believe something is normal then it is - likewise if it's abnormal it is. strange word asymmetry is strange indeed. I really don't want to hurt myself thinking about anymore. I think I'll just stick with easy words like: unique, one of a kind, awesome, .... asymmetry hurts my brain to much
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06-06-2008, 11:12 AM
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Name: Mike City: Westfield State: NC County: Stokes Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 51 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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An 'a' at the beginning of a word means not or without. Asymmetry means without symmetry or with no mirror imagery.
Has nothing to do with normal or abnormal. Those are relative and subjective terms.
Symmetry and Asymmetry are concrete concepts. It is or it isn't, nothing to judge or think about. | |
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06-06-2008, 03:46 PM
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Name: Travis City: Wake Forest State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Dec 2005 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by jeff... Ok your using big words, remember I'm from Granville County, take it easy there cowboy "asymmetry" meaning - One half of the abnormal area is different from the other half - Yep I cheated - gotta love google BUT "abnormal area is different from the other"? So it really means that some parts are different than the other parts - this would be considered normal, not abnormal simply because the areas are different. If they were the same it would abnormal because no two pieces of wood are the same, not even book matches - they are close but not the same. Stupid dictionary, just stupid, and think someone actually paid someone to write that mess - no wonder kids are confused now-a-days - geeeze...
Thanks Didn't you relocate down here from Illinois?
__________________ Wife changed my perspective. I need want some additional tools. I need want a
multi-spindle line borer - Found one!!!! Could I? Should I? Do I????
pocket hole machine - unlikely in 2008
Festool sander and vacuum -told I don't need 2 not going to happen
Edge bander - unlikely this decade
oscillating edge sander - unlikely in 2008
floor model chisel or slot mortiser - unlikely in 2008
and a bigger shop - maybe in 2009 | |
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