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02-12-2008, 10:35 PM
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Name: Tom City: Raleigh State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 46 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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02-12-2008, 11:22 PM
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Name: DaveO City: Clayton State: NC County: Johnston Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 38 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Tom, as is you'll probably get around 50-60 BF out of the larger log and around 8 BF out of the smaller one. You might get wider boards if you cut the top off of the larger long making it only 8'. The top diameter of the log determines the size of the cant once it's squared up.
My calculations are not scientific nor according to the Doyle scale, just a quicky volume calculation.
The paint on the ends will help no matter when it's applied. Luckily ERC dries well, and quickly.
Dave 
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Honestly Honey, that will cost around $100 $150 $200, and I need a few more tools. 
Heard from a client..."If I had your tools and experience...I could do it myself" 
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
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02-12-2008, 11:39 PM
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Name: DaveO City: Clayton State: NC County: Johnston Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 38 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Here is a quick calculator that will figure it in each scale. I still think that you use the top dia. of the log for the calculations. http://www.woodweb.com/cgi-bin/calcu...tor=log_volume
Dave
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Honestly Honey, that will cost around $100 $150 $200, and I need a few more tools.
Heard from a client..."If I had your tools and experience...I could do it myself"
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
--Dr. Seuss
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02-13-2008, 12:50 AM
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Name: jeff... City: Stovall State: NC County: Granville Join Date: Mar 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Tom ERC is a tough one to figure out - as you can tell by the picture of your logs there is a lot of bark inclusion, dote and taper. Dave is probably really close on his estimate.
Bout all I can tell you based on experience that a 16' 12" small end DIB yields around 80 BF of usable lumber, it should cant out to somewhere close to a 8x8. Some logs more, some logs less but that seems to be about the average for an 12" 16' long ERC log. Out of the 8x8 cant expect at least 2 boards if not more to have pith, that's the way it works on logs with lots of taper like ERC.
As for drying I don't believe I have ever seen anyone kiln dry ERC before - it's real dry coming off the log and air dries very fast.
As for the smaller log I see a lot of branches there, which will make for some big nasty knots. Although knots are desirable in ERC, big knots typically fall out when your sawing. So I don't think you would really want to try and cut anything with big branch sockets like that. | |
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02-13-2008, 03:07 PM
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Name: Dozer City: Clayton State: NC County: Johnston Join Date: May 2006 Age: 41 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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you could make some nice bowl blanks out of the smaller log. | |
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02-13-2008, 09:08 PM
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Name: Jack City: Rolesville State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Apr 2007 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Hey Tom, I am in Rolesville, if you want to bring the 2 cedars to me I will saw them for you, it will not take long.
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02-14-2008, 12:06 AM
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Name: Tom City: Raleigh State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 46 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Jack I am game, but tell me how much is that big one going to weigh? My 4 x 8 trailer has a 1500 pound max payload. Am I over that? How do I get it on the trailer? | |
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02-14-2008, 12:13 AM
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Name: DaveO City: Clayton State: NC County: Johnston Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 38 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by toolferone  but tell me how much is that big one going to weigh? Around 600 lb. check this out - http://www.woodweb.com/cgi-bin/calculators/calc.pl
Dave
__________________ Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
Honestly Honey, that will cost around $100 $150 $200, and I need a few more tools.
Heard from a client..."If I had your tools and experience...I could do it myself"
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
--Dr. Seuss
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02-14-2008, 12:14 AM
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Name: jeff... City: Stovall State: NC County: Granville Join Date: Mar 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by toolferone Jack I am game, but tell me how much is that big one going to weigh? My 4 x 8 trailer has a 1500 pound max payload. Am I over that? How do I get it on the trailer? Dozer could load that for you  | |
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02-14-2008, 12:54 AM
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Name: Tom City: Raleigh State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 46 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by DaveO You think I would have taken the hint the first time you posted the link !
Thank DaveO uda man. | |
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02-14-2008, 12:56 AM
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Name: Tom City: Raleigh State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 46 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Anybody got a come along I could borrow, or better yet DOZER where are you!
Hey Dozer, there might be some ERC bowl blanks for trade. | |
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02-14-2008, 06:12 AM
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Name: Dozer City: Clayton State: NC County: Johnston Join Date: May 2006 Age: 41 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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when do you plan on getting it i could help you out this weekend. | |
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02-14-2008, 08:05 AM
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Name: Jerry City: Raleigh State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 47 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Tom, I've got a 5x10, 3500# tilt deck trailer if you need to borrow it. And I'll have to look to see if I still have a comealong. I think I'm not far from you, just up Capital Blvd of of Spring Forest. PM me if you're interested.
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02-14-2008, 07:28 PM
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Name: Scott Smith City: New Hill State: NC County: Chatham Join Date: Mar 2007 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Tom, I have a nice aluminum come-a-long that you're welcome to borrow.
Scott | |
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