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Ѳland tool · 12-28-2007, 09:04 PM

Ѳland tool

While searching the net I kept finding turners using a tool they called an Ѳland tool
The people using it didn’t use gouges skews or anything else just the Ѳland tool
In fact one of them said once you use an Ѳland tool you will never go back to your sorbys. I have got to find out about this.
More searching I find out the tool was made by Knud Ѳland a Dane living in North Carolina, a Dane living in North Carolina ok its really got my attention now, it seems you can buy one for $70 and up or you can make one for under $10 and when it wears out a new bit only costs $1.50, for under $10 I’ll give it a try.
When you first look it looks like a scraper, but its not it’s a very sharp cutting tool, and I found I could indeed make one for under $10, I made the small size one 3/16 just to see what it would do.
I am just learning to use the tools, my wife got me a good set of tools , not the cheap ones, and I have them sharpened correctly, and I have learned to make fair cuts with the gouges and skews.
When I threw this Ѳland tool to the wood I could tell a world of difference, I made 2 more handles 1 with normal tools and 1 with the Ѳland tool, now I am a believer.

tool with new handles ready to make more

DaveO · 01-03-2008, 12:13 AM

Nick, does HF have anything larger than ¼" HSS stock? If this tool works as well as it looks like it will, I might want to try my hand at making my own hollowing bar.
Dave

erasmussen · 01-03-2008, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by DaveO

Nick, does HF have anything larger than ¼" HSS stock? If this tool works as well as it looks like it will, I might want to try my hand at making my own hollowing bar.
Dave

Dave if you watch the video you will see that the biggest tool he ever uses is the 1/4 ", after trying it you might agree that 1/4 is big enough.
I have the same idea in mind about a hollowing bar, still working it out in my mind

DaveO · 01-03-2008, 12:25 AM

Really???? I watched those three videos today, and the cutter sure looks a lot bigger than ¼". It might have been a tiny lathe and bowl??

The tool that you have already made is perfect for a straight hollowing bar. I would like to mount the cutter at a angle as a side cutting bar, which you would use to enlarge the hollow created by the straight cutter.
Dave

erasmussen · 01-03-2008, 12:31 AM

Yep what i was thinking about mounting it at an angle through the bar

I'll give it a go soon kinda cold right now

NZAPP1 · 01-03-2008, 01:04 PM

Dave
I was only looking for the 1/4 stock but there web site sh owes 1/2 HSS tool steel. I am going to make a straight and angle tool this week end I hope if he LOML does not have other plans

erasmussen · 01-03-2008, 02:26 PM

A little more searching and I see where people are making tools up too 1/2" I havent looked at the right videos i guess

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I found a chart showing what size cold rolled and what size drill bit is needed for each size up too 1/2"
bit--------- drill ---------coldrolled
1/8-------- 3/16---------1/2
3/16-------- 9/32 ---------1/2
1/4 --------3/8 ----------5/8
3/8--------- 9/16-------- 3/4
1/2----------3/4 ---------7/8

m2 HSS bits for metal lathes is made all the way up too 2", but I dont think HF has any over 1/2"

So now someone is going to make one with a 1/2" bit 7/8 coldrolled 19 or 20" long with a 24" handle. thats going to be a real peterbuilt tool, (made for a man to drive or little sister rose)

And they are going to say how good it works then I'll have to have one that size, and my little drill press will not turn a 3/4" drill heck I dont even have a 3/4 steel drill bit

NZAPP1 · 01-03-2008, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by erasmussen

heck I dont even have a 3/4 steel drill bit

I do

You are welcome to use it and My drill press will turn it

Gotcha6 · 01-03-2008, 07:43 PM

Have you thought about drilling it out on the lathe? If the bed is long enough you could chuck the bit in the tailstock & put the bar in the 3 jaw. Just use a SLOW speed & be sure to center drill the hole first. You could probably come up with a rigged up steady rest to hold it & just feed the bit into the end of the bar. Another way would be to rig a cradle on the lathe bed with the bit in the headstock. Feed it in by hand.

Gotcha6 · 01-03-2008, 07:58 PM

Thought about it a little more..........

Just an idea..............

1. Go to this website: http://www.wttool.com/product-exec/product_id/37969

2. Use a good hardwood handle.

3. Mortise a 3/4" hole in the end of the handle (endgrain mortising will be tough)

4. With a length of 5" this bit need only stick out about 1-1/2"

5. Make a clamping ring to go over the end of the handle to prevent splitting.

How about it, guys?

Even if you don't try it thattaway, the link will take you to a whole host of ground square toolbits.