North Carolina Woodworker
An Educational Service Of North Carolina Woodworker, Inc.
Oh, Oh, Changes in Progress

Go Back   North Carolina Woodworker > Woodworking > General Woodworking

Notices


» Announcements
The Woodworking Source Grand Opening
Saturday November 22
Featured Photos
by Touchwood
· · ·
Member Galleries
24399 photos
10034 comments
by BumoutBob
· · ·
Member Galleries
24399 photos
10034 comments
by Turtlewood
· · ·
Member Galleries
24399 photos
10034 comments
by Hook
· · ·
Member Galleries
24399 photos
10034 comments

» Online Users: 52
15 members and 37 guests
Bas , Brett Sundlof , dancam , flatheadfisher , Gofor , golfdad , macdaddy , newtonc , PeteM , rsitzejr , rywilson , SkintKnuckle , smokez1 , taandctran , woodydiver
Most users ever online was 180, 04-22-2008 at 12:18 AM.
Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-04-2008, 11:33 PM   #1
Bas is online now Bas
Asst. Webmaster
 
Bas's Avatar
 
Name: Bas
City: Cary
State: NC
County: Wake
Join Date: Aug 2007
Age: 35
Posts: 2,569
Threads: 111
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.94 over 125 days
Pictures of the completed stand
Preamble to this WW class


The measurements for this project are more of a guideline, since you will have to tailor it to your tools and preferences. See diagram 1 below.



Diagram 1

I measured the width of my miter saw, added ½”, and determined the width of the platform should be 21”. That should fit most 10” chop saws. The disc/ sander combo was much narrower, so there was no real concern there about width. Every measurement that depends on the shelf width is marked with (a). I was tempted to make it a little wider, in case I ever upgraded a tool, but the whole point of this stand is mobility and conserving space.

The next critical measurement is the distance between the middle shelf and the underside of the platform. Here, the miter saw was not an issue, since in its “folded down” position it is only 15” tall. The sander on the other hand needed a little more room. I ended up using 18” as the maximum height; all related measurements are marked (b).

The final measurement to consider is the height of your miter saw bed. Mine was roughly 3 ¾”, so I went with the platform 4” down. I figured it would be easier to shim the saw to get it to the right height than trying to make the platform exact.

See diagram 2. I made the shelf 18” deep (18 ½” with trim, see below), which should fit most 10” miter saws. Note that it only needs to be deep enough for the bottom of the saw; a handle that sticks out in the front or a dust collection bag on the back is not an issue. Overall, these measurements felt “right” – not too tall, not too narrow. Stability is somewhat important when dealing with spinning saw blades.




Diagram 2


My workbench is 35” high, which is the right size for me, although I found the miter saw handle to be slightly too high to be truly comfortable. I wanted the platform on which the miter saw would sit to be roughly 34”. Subtracting the height of the casters, the 18” for the tool and the thickness of the bottom and shelf, that left me with about 8” for the shelf area. That worked out great, since I wanted the drawer to be 6” deep (any deeper and you will be tempted to stack stuff, and you’ll never find anything….). The casters I had bought were the bolt kind, not the screw-on kind (oops…), so I needed a little room at the bottom for the nuts and washers. The final height of the cabinet is 37¾”, with the platform at 33¾”.

Tall people may want to increase the measurement (b), and if you go with the screw-on casters you can save an inch by lowering the middle shelf (since you don’t have to account for the nuts & washers). Again, keep the proportions in mind. Consider making the cabinet deeper and wider if you make it taller than 40”.

Note that all the measurements are for the plywood panels. I trimmed the plywood with ¼” strips of beech to hide the raw edges. So, for example, the final width of the cabinet is 23” (22 ½” + ¼” + ¼”). If you go with edge banding, the increase is marginal of course. Since the trim is done afterwards, it won’t matter for the construction.

For those of you who don’t know, the thickness of plywood varies quite a bit. Even though it’s called ¾” plywood doesn’t mean it’s actually ¾” thick. That would be too easy. One of my first projects was a bookcase that required dadoes for the shelves. I ended up with a lot of scrap…. Any time the thickness of the plywood matters I marked the measurement as “approximate”. For example, the platform is composed of two pieces of plywood, with 1” thick strips in between. If the plywood is 23/32” instead of ¾”, the final height of the platform will be 2 7/16”, not 2½”. Likewise, the bottom is listed as 22½”, but will probably be 22 7/16”. The good news is that you can always make the panel shorter.

Material list below...

Last edited by Bas; 08-08-2008 at 12:30 AM. Reason: Fixed broken link
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to Bas    
Old 08-04-2008, 11:37 PM   #2
Bas is online now Bas
Asst. Webmaster
 
Bas's Avatar
 
Name: Bas
City: Cary
State: NC
County: Wake
Join Date: Aug 2007
Age: 35
Posts: 2,569
Threads: 111
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.94 over 125 days
WW cl@ss - fliptop cabinet part 1: Material list and cutting diagram

Material/ part list
  1. Sheet of plywood. You’ll need almost a full 8x4 sheet. I used ¾” Birch plywood. You could go with construction grade plywood of course, but you may want to spend the extra money and go with something that is a little easier to work with.
  2. Hardwood trim. I went with Beech because that’s what I had, and I wanted to do a shop project to get some experience with it. Any kind of hardwood will work, but I recommend Beech, Oak, Ash, hard Maple etc. Something that will stand up to some abuse. But Cherry or Walnut would be fine too.
  3. Hardwood supports and strips. Besides the hardwood support on top (where the wings will be attached), you also need two small blocks to mount the axle, some strips to make the platform, a few pieces for the wing supports, and some thin strips for edging and decoration. I used a combination of Beech and Oak. You only need a few board feet.
  4. Drawer bottom. I used ¼” Birch plywood; you’ll need roughly 21”x18”.
  5. Drawer front. I suggest you use the same material as for the trim.
  6. Back panel. This is to cover the drawer area only. I used ¼” birch plywood, this was the cutoff from the drawer bottom.
  7. Axle. I used ½” steel bar, 24” in length (approx.). You can get it at Home Depot in 3ft lengths; the cutoff piece is actually useful during assembly.
  8. Piano hinge. You’ll need a total of 32”. It usually comes in 3ft. lengths.
  9. Barrel bolts, the type of latch you slide side-to-side. You’ll need four of them.
  10. Drawer pull.
  11. Casters. I used four swivel casters from Grizzly. As mentioned before, I accidentally bought the threaded kind, not the one you attach via screws. But both kinds will work. Don’t skimp too much on the casters. Again, the whole point of this stand is mobility. These casters are double-locking, i.e. when locked they won’t swivel or roll.
  12. Washers, bolts, screws, scrap metal hardware, glue etc.

Here are the measurements for the plywood panels (part #, description: length x width (quantity):
  1. Side: 32 1/2" x 18" (2)
  2. Bottom: 22 1/2" x 18" (1)
  3. Shelf: 21 3/4" x 18" (1)
  4. Platform: 21" x 18" (2)
  5. Drawer side: 17" x 6" (2)
  6. Drawer front/ back: 19 1/4" 6" (2)
  7. Wing: 24" x 11" (2)
__________________
Bas.
I don't need it. I just want it.
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to Bas    
Old 08-04-2008, 11:44 PM   #3
Moderator
Advisory Panel
 
sapwood's Avatar
 
Name: Roger
City: Durham
State: NC
County: Durham
Join Date: Jul 2005
Age: 62
Posts: 5,489
Threads: 198
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.50 over 125 days
Re: WW cl@ss - fliptop cabinet part 1: Measurements & Material list

Bas,
This is so good, it's almost scary

Roger
__________________
I ain't never had too much fun!
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to sapwood    
Old 08-05-2008, 08:55 AM   #4
This Space for rent
 
Makinsawdust's Avatar
 
Name: Robert
City: Matthews
State: NC
County: Union
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 283
Threads: 10
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 5.49 over 125 days
Re: WW cl@ss - fliptop cabinet part 1: Measurements & Material list

This is the first time I've see a consultant build something before he told someone else how to build it. It must be the "a". Consultants are known for their ability to bandsaw. In this case its B"a"S. Keep up the good work cyber professor.



Rob
__________________
A woodworker is one that works for hours getting machinery set to perfection, then pulls out an imperfect piece of wood and makes a beautiful imperfect project.
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to Makinsawdust    
Old 08-05-2008, 09:23 AM   #5
This Space for rent
 
WoodWrangler's Avatar
 
Name: Jeremy
City: Charlotte
State: NC
County: Mecklenburg
Join Date: Mar 2006
Age: 30
Posts: 2,534
Threads: 338
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.89 over 125 days
Re: WW cl@ss - fliptop cabinet part 1: Measurements & Material list

Okay, I'm impressed.
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to WoodWrangler    
Old 08-05-2008, 09:24 AM   #6
This Space for rent
 
woodrat's Avatar
 
Name: Archie
City: Garner
State: NC
County: Johnston
Join Date: Nov 2006
Age: 65
Posts: 228
Threads: 40
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.33 over 125 days
Re: WW cl@ss - fliptop cabinet part 1: Measurements & Material list

I predict that there will be a lot of these "Bas Cabinets" around.

Thanks for all the hard work Bas.
__________________
Woodrat

The hurrier I go, the behinder I get.

Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to woodrat    
Closed Thread
  North Carolina Woodworker > Woodworking > General Woodworking

Tags
cabinet , cl@ss , fliptop , list , material , measurements , part

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Woodworking cybercl@ss - fliptop cabinet Bas Other WW or Site related Topics 1 08-05-2008 09:22 AM
Mobile multi-functional shop utility convertible fliptop miter saw/ sander stand Bas General Woodworking 36 08-04-2008 10:22 PM
Outfeed/Assembly/Fliptop Bench michaelgarner Old Off Topic Forums 16 09-16-2007 09:26 PM
material for dog bed Jay Where Can I Find, Buy or Sell 3 03-26-2007 08:19 PM
measurements of door front stile and rails to cabinet lwhughes149 General Woodworking 14 10-18-2006 02:34 PM

» Log in
You last visited: at
Log Out
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!

Search Rockler.com's Extensive Woodworking Catalog

Search from over
9000 products!
Search Woodcraft.com for All Your Woodworking Needs


Search Woodcraft.com For ALL Your Woodworking Needs!
Highland Woodworking Link
» Stats
Members: 2,063
Threads: 16,065
Posts: 174,290
2nd Top Poster: jeff... (6,231)
Welcome to our newest member, Rustic Rambler
» Today's Birthdays
robertcody (52)

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0
Content Copyright © 2005 - 2008 North Carolina Woodworker, Inc.