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Old 03-02-2009, 07:59 AM   #1
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I had my class yesterday at Roy Underhill's The Woodwright School. This was the second session of the first class taught at his new school, and it covered dovetails and mortise and tenon. Saying that lays out the bare facts, but doesn't come close to describing what actually happened, or all what was taught during the day.

It was a chilly, rainy day in Pittsboro when we all arrived, and it kept raining all day long. Everyone was there by 8:30 when the class wasn't scheduled until 9:00. We filled out our paperwork, inspected the classroom for safety hazards (the most hazardous thing there was my own incompetance), and chose a bench.

Each bench had a compliment of tools, some new, some old, some very old. Down the middle of the room sat Roy's little Roubo-style bench with the splayed legs in back, a treadle-powered scroll saw, his spring-pole lathe, and his "new" 1891 treadle-powered table saw, which Roy explained was the outer limits of the technology we would be using in the school.

There were ten of us of varying degrees of skill. At the bench in front of me was Bill Andersen who himself teaches classes, and who had the coolest tool tote and nicest tools (at one point pulling out four 3/8" pigsticker mortise chisels for use of others in the class). In front of him was Peter Ross, formerly the Master of the Shop at Colonial Williamsburg's Anderson Forge for 21 years, and a friend of Roy's. It was the first time he had tried woodworking.

There were also a few fellow NC Woodworkers, and I'll let them introduce themselves should they wish, and other enthusiastic students from as far away as Tennessee. (it was a looong day for him, and a long drive over the mountains) Overall, a good group. The class was full with ten students.

Roy and his wife welcomed us, provided coffee and doughnuts and we began the class.

The class itself was a mixture of straight-ahead woodworking instruction, history and examination of actual pieces: some Roy had made for his show (and wonderfully recognizable by fans), some were of more historical interest. We got a chance to closely examine a wonderful old tool chest probably from around North Carolina dating to approximately late 18th, early 19th century. We examined the construction, what choices were made, the tools used to make them, what worked, and how it possibly has lasted so long while violating almost all of the rules we thought we knew.

At various times Roy interspersed into the class other topics like getting a chance to examine, and watch him demonstrate, the Barnes treadle-powered table saw, or we pulled a set of squared timbers with pre-cut joinery out from the corner and he showed us how they all fit together to form a corner of a timber-framed house and how solid they were without any pegging or anything except the joinery.

We also got a great little intro and description of sash making, including the tools used to make window and door sashes.

It was in these interludes that the real differences between Roy's school and other very good schools of woodworking instruction comes through. Roy's a good teacher, he's had just a little experience explaining woodworking and its related arts for the last 30+ years, but it's his historical perspective, the knowledge he brings of craft and tradition that set his classes apart.

Thinking back on his class, it most reminded me of my graduate school classes in Art History. These were NOT the large, lecture-hall recitations of "Here's a painting of Virgin and Child by BlahBlahBlah, painted in 1672. Notice the fine brushwork...." The graduate-level art history classes that I was reminded of were ones where you meet in the back rooms of the museum and see five different Japanese woodblock prints of the same scene. The professor takes you through, in depth, just what's going on with each picture, including the history of when it was made, the significance of what they were showing in the scene, the technology of the print making including how they modified the blocks based on wear and tear during the printing process (as shown in the different versions, or "states" of the print), etc...

In other words, you're given context, background, explanation and even some well-informed speculation. It's a richer approach to the same information. It's the difference between being told that a house is a common example of a Queen Anne Victorian, and being told that this is a regional example of a Queen Anne Victorian which became popular with certain pattern books that came out of the Northeast at this date, but was modified by local elites in the area by extending the porch for added shade in the heat, and notice the extra roof lines as the attic was changed to allow for greater ventilation. We also see the attention to small ornamentation which became popular and replaced the taste for simple, geometric shapes. How did they turn out that much wooden gingerbread ornaments? Well, small shops sprung up to create nothing but the spindles, ......" You get the idea.

It's obvious that Roy's passionate about the old ways of woodworking, and making sure the hard-won lessons of our predecessors are not lost in a world of MDF jigs, flipping switches, and dust collection systems. He brings us quality woodworking instruction, along with a heaping helping of humor, historical knowledge and truly the spirit of the woodwrights of old.

And, to top it all off, I'm definitely going to cut better dovetails after this class.

AAAndrew

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Wow! What a report! Sounds like the second day was as much fun as the first! Glad to hear Bill brought those pig stickers for you guys!
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Great synopsis Andrew! I was there too. It was terrific! I will take another class there. We were giving Roy idea for more classes in the future. What Andrew did n't mention was that Roy wasn't going to open the school yet. It was Andrew's post and pics that prompted the early opening.

Roy also took the time to pull out issue #3 of FWW and show Tage Fride's (spelling?) methods for doing some of the same joinery we were doing and explained why his methods differed. Especially for half blind dovetails.

I learned a lot, and my own mistakes helped me learn even more. Like how to shim a dovetail that I cut too small. My mortise and tenon was the best of the three joins we built. My through dovetails were the worst.

I really learned watch a video Roy had made of Frank cutting a mortise where one side of the the mortise was glass so that we could see the wood come apart and watch ezcellent technique.
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Thanks Andrew, wonderful narrative of an obviously extremely valuable class. Makes me want to attend.
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now I really can't wait until march 28th class! great report

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Excellent overview! Thanks for posting!

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now I really can't wait until march 28th class! great report

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Dan, I'm in that one, too -- have you gotten anything in the mail/email on it yet other than the confirmation?
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I have the class on March 8. I am looking forward to it. Thanks for the review.... Gives me more to look forward to.
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Thanks so much for the report Andrew. That was very insightful. Can't wait till the class!
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My goodness, I have to wait till Sunday. Sheesh, this sounds great.

Thanks for the reports!

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Fantastic, thanks for the report! I'm thrilled to have such a resource so close to home. His "additional info", beyond the woodworking instruction, is a big part of the reason I tune into his show so often.
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Alex, I'm in that same class. Got a little antsy myself and wrote to Roy. Just got a note back saying he will be sending out pre-class info. shortly. Look forward to meeting up with other North Carolina Woodworker folk on the 28th.
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Alex, I'm in that same class. Got a little antsy myself and wrote to Roy. Just got a note back saying he will be sending out pre-class info. shortly. Look forward to meeting up with other North Carolina Woodworker folk on the 28th.
Cool, thanks. I'll probably be the guy that looks like he's been up all night tending to a sick child. (Can't seem to get rid of these darn colds -- they just keep going around and around the family!!)
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Here's the first class pic ...
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Here's the first class pic ...
Clearly not a good place to meet ladies... My wife will be pleased.

And I didn't realize that Roy was so tall.

Thanks for posting.
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Clearly not a good place to meet ladies... My wife will be pleased.

And I didn't realize that Roy was so tall.

Thanks for posting.
Yeah, probably not ... at least not our class!
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