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#1 | | What's wrong with this construction? Name: Bas City: Raleigh State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 36  11-06-2009, 05:10 PM
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11-06-2009, 05:18 PM
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Name: Phillip City: Lexington State: NC County: Davidson Join Date: Jun 2008 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.92 over 180 days | Re: What's wrong with this construction?
Are you asking about the clamps to hold the top on -
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11-06-2009, 05:20 PM
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Name: Tom City: Yadkinville State: NC County: Yadkin Join Date: Jun 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 5.95 over 180 days | Re: What's wrong with this construction?
You've got leftover hardware? 
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11-06-2009, 05:22 PM
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Name: Fred City: franklinton State: nc County: franklin Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 52 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.84 over 180 days | Re: What's wrong with this construction?
those screws and lone bracket are gonna git lost when you turn the table over......... .gif "Drogar BigGrin(DBG)") | |
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11-06-2009, 05:34 PM
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Name: David City: Pittsboro State: NC County: Chatham Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 52 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 3.50 over 180 days | Re: What's wrong with this construction?
Two screws and one clip....
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11-06-2009, 05:34 PM
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Name: Robert City: Youngsville State: NC County: Franklin Join Date: Oct 2007 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 5.48 over 180 days | Re: What's wrong with this construction?
top is on upside down ?
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11-06-2009, 06:17 PM
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Name: Brad Keisler City: Waxhaw State: NC County: Union Join Date: Jan 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 4.98 over 180 days | Re: What's wrong with this construction?
you left one of the 4 legs off on accident?
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the board facing us is vertically challenged?
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11-06-2009, 06:18 PM
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#8 | | Senior Administrator
Name: Bas City: Raleigh State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 36 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.96 over 180 days | Re: What's wrong with this construction?
It's definitely about the clips. I decided to use Z-clips to ensure the top wouldn't split when the wood moves. The clips at the top of the picture are correct (at least, I think they are), because as the wood expands across the grain the clips will slide in the groove.
But I also put Z-clips on the other two sides. That doesn't really work, now does it? Not as bad as a glue joint, but there is not much "give" here. Or am I wrong now, and was I right then?
(BTW, I'm not terribly worried either way...the table is inside in stable humidity, the wood is QS, and the thing is encased in poly...but still)
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11-06-2009, 06:22 PM
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Name: Fred City: franklinton State: nc County: franklin Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 52 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.84 over 180 days | Re: What's wrong with this construction?
Originally Posted by Bas  It's definitely about the clips. I decided to use Z-clips to ensure the top wouldn't split when the wood moves. The clips at the top of the picture are correct (at least, I think they are), because as the wood expands across the grain the clips will slide in the groove.
But I also put Z-clips on the other two sides. That doesn't really work, now does it? Not as bad as a glue joint, but there is not much "give" here. Or am I wrong now, and was I right then?
(BTW, I'm not terribly worried either way...the table is inside in stable humidity, the wood is QS, and the thing is encased in poly...but still)
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11-06-2009, 06:57 PM
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Name: Wayne City: Cary State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 62 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 7.16 over 180 days | Re: What's wrong with this construction?
Hey Bas
I have used the Z-clips but normally I use figure 8's (two per apron). The trick is not to over tighten them. I leave them a little loosey, goosey so the top can move if it needs to.
Did you ever find the matting clip for the extra screw? (We Canadians can still count ya know!  )
I thought you were were talkin' 'bout the rotten wood you used!  ....Sure is nice spalting.
I think that you are good to go!
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11-06-2009, 07:03 PM
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Name: Dennis City: Ivan's Corner (Monroe) State: NC County: Union Join Date: Jan 2007 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.73 over 180 days | Re: What's wrong with this construction?
IMO the ones on the sides are needed as well, but they should be fastened 'loose' and not tight into the kerf. If the wood moves cross grain the end grain on the stretcher will inhibit its movement unless you let the front & back float too. I think I would have used biskit cuts in the stretcher & rail to put the clips in to avoid weakening them with a full length kerf.
JMTCW
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11-06-2009, 08:06 PM
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Name: Michael Shelley City: Wilson State: NC County: Wilson Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 61 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.77 over 180 days | Re: What's wrong with this construction?
The clips on the sides (long) should not be jammed into the groove. Leave 1/8" or more gap so the wood can move and not bottom out on the clips. The ends (short) can be placed farther in but not bottomed out. As stated, don't make any of them death grip tight.
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11-06-2009, 08:28 PM
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#13 | | Senior Administrator
Name: Bas City: Raleigh State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 36 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.96 over 180 days | Re: What's wrong with this construction?
Originally Posted by FredP should be fine. just dont crank em down gorilla tight! Originally Posted by Canuck The trick is not to over tighten them. Originally Posted by Gotcha6 but they should be fastened 'loose' and not tight into the kerf. Originally Posted by mshel As stated, don't make any of them death grip tight. I sense a pattern here  Of course, I subscribe to the school of thought of "it ain't right until it's mighty tight" (not to be confused with "keep cranking till you hear creaking"), so this is gonna be tough to accept... I think I'll loosen a few of the screws just a tad, to give it some room.
Thanks everyone.
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11-06-2009, 08:39 PM
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Name: Reggie City: Albemarle State: NC County: Stanly Join Date: May 2007 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.03 over 180 days | Re: What's wrong with this construction?
Darn!  I was waiting to see it mounted on the ceiling along with the chairs!!
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11-06-2009, 08:40 PM
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Name: Jack City: Zebulon State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Aug 2009 Age: 69 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 5.62 over 91 days | Re: What's wrong with this construction?
the WRONG color screws were used :} screws should have been silver to match | |
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