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Old 08-18-2008, 02:31 PM   #16
 
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I just saw your post about it being a platform bed. This probably means that he's going to use some sort of pedestal and decking. If so, GREAT! problem solved. But if he's just going to throw some plywood and a mattress onto those ledger strips you're right back to square one with the support issue. In any case, make sure your friend understands and won't hold you responsible if he ignores your advice.
The plan does call for a two-piece plywood board between the head/footboards and side rails. He's yet to purchase that though. I will share with him this information. Thanks!
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I made an 11/2" thick torsion box assy as the matress base for my bed to avoid having anything under the bed to ruin the look. Charles, are you saying that generally there IS something that has to go from the matress support to the floor on all Queen beds? I knew mine was going to need something special because it is a temperpedic and they need a very rigid base, but does an ordinary sprung matress?
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:32 PM   #18
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I made an 11/2" thick torsion box assy as the matress base for my bed to avoid having anything under the bed to ruin the look. Charles, are you saying that generally there IS something that has to go from the matress support to the floor on all Queen beds? I knew mine was going to need something special because it is a temperpedic and they need a very rigid base, but does an ordinary sprung matress?
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Generally, yes, with a queen size, you need something going down to the floor holding up the center.

Now the torsion box may be adequate - I'd give it a shot and see what happens anyway. I presume you put the mattress right on the torsion box without a foundation. Since you have a tempurpedic, it's not going to harm the mattress if it starts to sag, you'll just have to fix it before it gets to the point that you and the wife can't help but "meet in the middle."

If you also bought a foundation - if the torsion box starts to sag the foundation will sag and be ruined. In that case I wouldn't risk it - I'd make some sort of center support. I wouldn't need to be much. Most of the time when we had to "retrofit" a standard frame we just cut and screwed a 1 1/2" x 1 1/2" piece of spruce to the center slat.
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That's really nice Mr. Wrangler Really Nice
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Originally Posted by cpw View Post
David,

Generally, yes, with a queen size, you need something going down to the floor holding up the center.

Now the torsion box may be adequate - I'd give it a shot and see what happens anyway. I presume you put the mattress right on the torsion box without a foundation. Since you have a tempurpedic, it's not going to harm the mattress if it starts to sag, you'll just have to fix it before it gets to the point that you and the wife can't help but "meet in the middle."

If you also bought a foundation - if the torsion box starts to sag the foundation will sag and be ruined. In that case I wouldn't risk it - I'd make some sort of center support. I wouldn't need to be much. Most of the time when we had to "retrofit" a standard frame we just cut and screwed a 1 1/2" x 1 1/2" piece of spruce to the center slat.
Thanks for the info Charles. The torsion box is VERY rigid and shows no sign of sagging at all. It is screwed to ledger strips around the perimeter and that design add immensely to the overall rigidity of the structure.

A piece down to the floor would have ruined the the whole look when you are down on you knees looking under the bed - don't ask, but it's the sort of thing people do when they look at it!
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Originally Posted by DavidF View Post
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A piece down to the floor would have ruined the the whole look when you are down on you knees looking under the bed - don't ask, but it's the sort of thing people do when they look at it!
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Very nice Jeremy, I guess that frees up shop space for the massive pen production project
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Originally Posted by sapwood View Post
It's true
Trust me, if you see David's bed you will inspect it from every angle

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Odd how all we woodworkers do that, must be something about looking at all the hidden spots
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The finished product looks pretty cool, Jeremy!!

Lucky friend!


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