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View Poll Results: What do you do when you decide to build something significant | |
Grab some paper and start drafting drawings, and precise measurements, creating your own plan.
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Go to the web and look for a plan.
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Post a message asking for plan ideas and suggestions?
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Run out to the shop and start sawing.. plans are useless....
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11-25-2006, 11:09 PM
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Name: Clay Lowman City: Willow Spring State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 36 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 5.83 over 30 days | Just wondering what everyone does when they decide to build something significant...
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11-25-2006, 11:23 PM
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Name: Ron City: Fuquay Varina State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Jan 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 5.83 over 30 days | Clay,
You need to add an all of the above.
At times I've used all of the methods.....on the same project!
Ron |
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11-25-2006, 11:24 PM
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Name: Terrence P. Rielly City: Fayetteville State: NC County: Cumberland Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 63 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 2.80 over 30 days | I like to make a pencil drawing (not to size) to start to get a general idea that this is really what I want. Then make a drawing using the measurements I will be using and make a copy of the project. I usually make it out of pine or popular as the proto type. If this is what I like then I recheck my measurements and start the project. If the porject requires a certain finish I will test a sample finish on a piece of scrap wood I am using on the project. Right now I am making a Fire Department Plaque that I designed years ago using some figures from some bronze plaques. It consisted of a Fire firghter on each end of the State of North Carolina as the background with the Fire Department Patch of that Department between them. I have also done it with the Fire Department Malteese Cross in the middle. All parts are in 3D and very time consuming. I have made several that have been presented at Fort Bragg over the years. My biggest problen is if it doesn't look right I will throw out a peice and start over till I get it right. Can be expensive. PS I am a NUT! Terry 
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11-25-2006, 11:37 PM
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Name: Lorraine City: Littleton State: NC County: Warren Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 60 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 3.50 over 30 days | I go looking at pictures of pieces of furniture when I am trying to come up with something new to make. |
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11-25-2006, 11:57 PM
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Name: Travis City: Wake Forest State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Dec 2005 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 6.53 over 30 days | I'm a hybrid. The LOML and I will decide I am going to build something be it a dresser, bed, cabinet, etc, and then we go picture hunting. If I can find a plan we like, I will buy it, but I have not had a lot of luck with plans. Too many times either the joinery is not as good as it should be, or more likely I suck at that type of joinery.
If we don't find a plan, then I will do drawings laying out how I will make it from the picture. For dimensions, I try to stay pretty standard and rob them from other plans/books/magazines that I have. One that I use a lot for dimensions is Thomas Moser's measured shop drawings for american furniture. Historically, I would get out pencil and paper and do rough drawings, but I would end up forgetting or missing something. Now I pull up sketchup and do it all. One thing I have noticed with me doing sketchup is that I at times make the joinery more complex than I need to.. |
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11-25-2006, 11:58 PM
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Name: DaveO City: Clayton State: NC County: Johnston Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 38 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 7.00 over 30 days | Clay, I would have to go for almost all of the above. I mostly draw up my own plans with inspiration from pictures I find on the Web, but they aren't very precise, then I go out to the shop and start sawing and make things fit within the basic parameters of my "sketch" plan, then I screw up and come on-line to y'all to ask for advice on how to fix my error
Dave 
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Honestly Honey, that will cost around $100 $150 $200, and I need a few more tools.
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11-26-2006, 12:50 AM
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Name: jeff... City: Stovall State: NC County: Granville Join Date: Mar 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 6.77 over 30 days | Quick question what do you consider something significant? Just so I can get a perspective on where your coming from.
Thanks
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11-26-2006, 01:19 AM
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Name: Monty City: Hickory State: NC County: Catawba Join Date: Jul 2005 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 0.70 over 30 days | No simple answer for me... I usually go to the web and look for ideas/inspiration, then think about it for a few months.... then buy some wood.... sketch up some plans... realize I don't have enough wood.... buy more wood... start cutting.... (oops)... buy MORE wood.... etc.  |
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11-26-2006, 08:25 AM
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#9 | | Moderator Advisory Panel
Name: Clay Lowman City: Willow Spring State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 36 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 5.83 over 30 days | Quick question what do you consider something significant? Not a jig(not that they are not significant). Anything that will take you more than a couple of days to complete.
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11-26-2006, 08:39 AM
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Name: George City: Oxford State: NC County: Granville Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 69 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 7.00 over 30 days | I'm with Ron, I sorta use all of the methods together. In the beginning I look at pictures (web and magazines and catalogs) and make some preliminary sketches. After I get the primary dimensions, I try to make a cutting list of sorts and then start cutting and fitting as I go. I have used plans but it seems that I always modify as I go so the plans basically end up serving the same purpose as my preliminary sketches.
George
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11-26-2006, 08:44 AM
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Name: Michael City: APO State: AE County: ARMY Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 31 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 4.43 over 30 days | I use Google Sketch-up to draw a full plan. That gives me a detailed list of what I need. From there I make a cut list of the wood needed and decide what joinery, style, finish, etc. It has helped me out a lot doing it this way as well. And of course I mill the wood for the entire project at the same time. That way it doesn't feel that I am milling every piece as needed. One thing that I do as well, is figure the 20% for waste. With a detailed plan I don't waste that much but the left over milled stock helps when I make a mistake and I have stock that is milled to the right specifications. Hope I helped.
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11-26-2006, 10:23 AM
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Name: Nick City: Clemmons State: NC County: Davidson Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 50 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 6.77 over 30 days | I am with the rest of the group. You need to add all of the above. I go to the web, stores or books look for design ideas. Then sketch up something and jump right in and design, size and change as I go.
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11-26-2006, 10:51 AM
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Name: Charles City: Wilmington State: NC County: New Hanover Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 61 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 7.00 over 30 days | "All of the above!" I like to start with a picture, if possible, then sketch out changes I may want to make. After getting the style, then I will work on the measurements, jointery, and how much lumber and what finish. |
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11-26-2006, 10:58 AM
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Name: Chuck City: Rocky Mount State: NC County: Nash Join Date: Nov 2005 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 7.00 over 30 days | I look for a picture from the web, print it out and establish an approximate scale for reference, then draw up the plans by hand.
I have built a few pieces with plans but have migrated to generating my own plans. I don't do a lot of detailed sketches at first. I break the project down into steps. When I begin a step, I write down notes, generate detailed sketches (ie, mortise details), and also include "warning" statements (sneak up on final thickness, etc).
I have made fewer mistakes working from my plans...no, I didn't say ZERO mistakes!
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11-26-2006, 01:13 PM
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Name: rhett City: Frankfort State: KY County: Franklin Join Date: Oct 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week = 0.93 over 30 days | I think it is a mixture of all suggestions. Really depends on your own style. I usually start cutting and then draw out anything "tricky" full scale on a sheet of 1/4 inch. I try to make sure all piece/sizes are porportional with one another based off the golden mean. |
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