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07-06-2006, 05:11 PM
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Name: Ray City: Raleigh State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Mar 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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I got a request from my daughter for a coffee table. I made a comment about a tile top (since she's in college and will spill coffee and beer all over it). She thought that would be nice... if I made a checkerboard pattern of black and white tiles.
With that look for a top... I'm not sure what kind of finish or look or color for the rest of the table. I'm at a bit of a loss for overall look / design.
I'd love to hear any ideas or suggestions that would incorporate the above describred top.
Ray
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07-06-2006, 05:43 PM
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Name: DaveO City: Clayton State: NC County: Johnston Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 38 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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I think the tile in a nice wood surround would look great. Cherry, Walnut or Oak would look best. Or you could ebonize Maple. I had a tiled table in college, made it myself, and I had a hard time getting the spilled beer (porters and stouts) and coffee stains out of the grout lines. I used a "very good" sealer that should have prevented that 
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Honestly Honey, that will cost around $100 $150 $200, and I need a few more tools. 
Heard from a client..."If I had your tools and experience...I could do it myself" 
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07-06-2006, 06:36 PM
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Name: Ray City: Raleigh State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Mar 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Dave,
Good thought on ebonized wood. The DVD case (bookcase) that I made for her was (at her request) flat black. I take it that you used hard maple for your table? As far as your technique for darkening the wood... did you mix up a strong cocktail of black aniline dye? Some other chemistry? I seem to remember that David J Marks had some exotic chemical concoction for ebonizing wood for display shelves he built but I can't remember what he used.
Ray
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07-06-2006, 08:26 PM
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Name: D L Ames City: Fayetteville State: NC County: Cumberland Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 50 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Ray,
DavidF ebonized the legs for his Demilune table and they turned out beautiful. 
I am not sure how he did it but you might want to shoot him a PM to ask him.
D L
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07-06-2006, 09:05 PM
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Name: Dozer City: Clayton State: NC County: Johnston Join Date: May 2006 Age: 41 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Don't use grout us tub and tile caulk and you won't have to worry about the stains. Siliconized might be the best bet. | |
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07-06-2006, 09:15 PM
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Name: Bob City: Cary State: County: Wake Join Date: Nov 2005 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Here's a link that tells you how to ebonized some of the more common woods. I don't know how well it works on maple, but it works great on walnut. I have use the ebonized walnut on a few things. I still have a small jar of rust in the shop.
Anyway here's the link: http://www.joewoodworker.com/ruststain.htm
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07-07-2006, 07:31 AM
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Name: Peter Davio City: Hope Mills State: NC County: Cumberland Join Date: Dec 2005 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by DaveO and I had a hard time getting the spilled beer (porters and stouts) and coffee stains out of the grout lines. I used a "very good" sealer that should have prevented that
Dave awfully expensive beers for a college student  Or was that during your home-brewing hay-days?  Originally Posted by dozer Don't use grout us tub and tile caulk and you won't have to worry about the stains. Siliconized might be the best bet. I'll second that. The tile-top-tables I sell generally use some sort of caulk for the grout lines, When they come back in in rough shape, it makes for an easier repair.
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07-07-2006, 07:35 AM
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Name: DaveO City: Clayton State: NC County: Johnston Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 38 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Life is too short to drink cheap beer, and I brewed a lot more back then
Dave
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Honestly Honey, that will cost around $100 $150 $200, and I need a few more tools.
Heard from a client..."If I had your tools and experience...I could do it myself"
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
--Dr. Seuss
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07-07-2006, 07:54 AM
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Name: Jerry City: Salisbury State: NC County: Rowan Join Date: Feb 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by Ray Martin I
With that look for a top... I'm not sure what kind of finish or look or color for the rest of the table. I'm at a bit of a loss for overall look / design.
I'd love to hear any ideas or suggestions that would incorporate the above describred top.
Ray Ray--------When I worked for the millwork company we did some trim for Holiday Inn job that was red oak and painted gloss black. It turned out to an interesting appearance. The texture of the red oak seemed to be emphasized. With a top coat of urethane it may hold up to the spills. 
Jerry
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07-07-2006, 09:32 AM
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Name: David City: Pittsboro State: NC County: Chatham Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 51 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by D L Ames Ray,
DavidF ebonized the legs for his Demilune table and they turned out beautiful.
I am not sure how he did it but you might want to shoot him a PM to ask him.
D L I did that with Indian ink as this was getting all the good press as far as colour fastness over time compared with stains and dyes. Also some of the stains can be a bit blue rather than black. In addition, most people who want to "Ebonize" want to see some grain as in the real thing, but I was going for that full colour no grain look. I did a wash coat of ink then I mixed some of the ink into clear coat, but I would use "transtint" next time. This gives depth to the black in case it gets a knock, then the wood doesn't immediately show through. I finished with 5 coats of brush applied clear coat- I would spray next time. An alternative I was going to try was simply spraying the legs with black paint first and then clear coat, but I went the ink way. If you want some Indian ink to try a samble I can let you have some of mine - it's not cheap.
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