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06-09-2006, 12:58 PM
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#1 | | Who is a member of NCWW? SteveColes President
Treasurer Name: Steve City: Apex State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 64
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 06-09-2006, 12:58 PM
Who is a member of North Carolina Woodworker? The easy answer is anyone who has registered. But from the standpoint of providing services to our "members", that really is not the answer. For example. I offer free website hosting to our members, if the site is woodworking related. Assume for a moment that this option is very popular(it isn't). My resources to do this are somewhat limited, so at some point I would have to stop. So, to whom should I give these websites. The person who registers, requests a site and then after it is up and running, goes away and shows no interest in North Carolina Woodworker after that.
A few weeks ago, I was visiting a store in the Raleigh area and asked about getting a North Carolina Woodworker member discount. They asked how they could verify membership and would I provide a membership list including addresses. They were also concerned about the scenario above. They even cited the Hartville Tool discount offered on WoodNet. Everyone knows about it and you don't even have to be registered on WoodNet. The comment made was something like,"Maybe Hartville doesn't mind, but we would."
Then a few days ago came the unsolicited request to provide a way to offer to sell items with very good discount, but somehow keep it confidential. Well, we figured out to do it, but again it involves definition of "member" being something besides just registered.
vBulletin has a built in ranking system. You've it seen before, just joined, Newbie, Jr Member, etc. That was intended to provide a solution to these problems. But it doesn't 't because the only criteria is post count. That is not sufficient, some very good and deserving people on this forum don't post a lot and they shouldn't get penalized. There are some people who have been major contributors, but sort of disappeared for quite a while. Should they get all the same benefits as the people who are active now?
So what I am going to do is create a new ranking system based on the following: - How often do you visit the site, last x weeks
- How often do you start threads. last x weeks
- How often do you post replies. last x weeks (includes pictures in the gallery)
- How often do you add links to the links DB. last x weeks
- How often do you add downloads to the download library. last x weeks
- How often do you refer people to Web Site who become members. last x weeks
All of the above in totals - How long have you been a member?
The above are listed in a preliminary order of importance. Of course the problem is some of that information is not available and/or can not be derived with the current info in the DB. I am starting to rectify that. I just added collection of thread start data. Others will come in the following weeks.
But right know the criteria will have to be something vBulletin supports now. Post count and membership. So for now, the criteria will be 30 days and five posts, which is rather arbitrary, but it is the best I can do.
The first thing to be added will be a private for sale forum. This forum will be invisible to guest and members who have not yet meet the criteria. The reason for the invisibility is so that word of the sale or special offer does not get spread out all over the web. Or in other words , keep the sale of service confidential.
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06-09-2006, 01:14 PM
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Name: David City: Pittsboro State: NC County: Chatham Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 52 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 3.81 over 180 days |
That sounds like a great thing to be available to us Steve, thanks for sorting that out.
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06-09-2006, 02:08 PM
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Name: Brad Keisler City: Waxhaw State: NC County: Union Join Date: Jan 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 2.53 over 180 days |
It appears that you've put a great deal of thought into this Steve, and I for one appreciate it.
How do you monitor/track site referrals, out of curiosity...
Also. . . what's the possibility of custom names for newbie, member, etc.
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06-09-2006, 02:58 PM
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Name: jeff... City: Stovall State: NC County: Granville Join Date: Mar 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.81 over 180 days |
Steve, A great deal of thought went into your plan. Could it be made simpler by just signing some kind of electronic member card? You could maintain that pretty easy in the DB I would think. Maybe the card is only good for a year and you could send out a reminder to renew your membership via email. If needed by retailers maybe you could provide a way for the member to print out their membership cards on-line.
Just my two cents...
Thanks
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06-09-2006, 03:07 PM
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#5 | | President
Treasurer
Name: Steve City: Apex State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 64 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.96 over 180 days |
Originally Posted by Sweetgum It appears that you've put a great deal of thought into this Steve, and I for one appreciate it.
How do you monitor/track site referrals, out of curiosity...
Also. . . what's the possibility of custom names for newbie, member, etc. Referrals: when a person registers there is box for the username of the person who referred you.
Those were the custom names.  Actually they can be anything we want. I'm not sure I want to use names. Plenty of time to figure that out, it will take a while for me to but the better system in place
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06-09-2006, 03:09 PM
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#6 | | President
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Name: Steve City: Apex State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 64 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.96 over 180 days |
Originally Posted by jeff... Steve, A great deal of thought went into your plan. Could it be made simpler by just signing some kind of electronic member card? You could maintain that pretty easy in the DB I would think. Maybe the card is only good for a year and you could send out a reminder to renew your membership via email. If needed by retailers maybe you could provide a way for the member to print out their membership cards on-line.
Just my two cents...
Thanks Good thought
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06-09-2006, 03:12 PM
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Name: Monty City: Hickory State: NC County: Catawba Join Date: Jul 2005 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 1.13 over 180 days |
I have nothing to add here.... just trying to keep my post reply count up!!!  | |
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06-09-2006, 03:16 PM
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#8 | | President
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Name: Steve City: Apex State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 64 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.96 over 180 days |
Ah, but it is going to be thread starts that will be more important 
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06-09-2006, 03:33 PM
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#9 | | Director
Moderator
Name: Tom City: Raleigh State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 46 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.92 over 180 days |
Wow! That was a mouhful Steve, and a lot of work. I hope you keep enjoying doing this as much as we like having it here  ! | |
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06-09-2006, 03:48 PM
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Name: Pete City: Charlotte State: NC County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Jan 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 7.00 over 180 days |
Monty: "I have nothing to add here.... just trying to keep my post reply count up!!! [IMG]images/smilies/Standard/lol.gif[/IMG]
Steve: "Ah, but it is going to be thread starts that will be more important[IMG]images/smilies/Standard/lol.gif[/IMG] [IMG]images/smilies/slap.gif[/IMG]"
I think I see a potential problem here . . . Where does it all end ? ? ?
. . . but maybe it's just me  | |
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06-09-2006, 04:01 PM
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#11 | | President
Treasurer
Name: Steve City: Apex State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 64 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.96 over 180 days |
Originally Posted by Tekkadan Monty: "I have nothing to add here.... just trying to keep my post reply count up!!! [IMG]images/smilies/Standard/lol.gif[/IMG]
Steve: "Ah, but it is going to be thread starts that will be more important[IMG]images/smilies/Standard/lol.gif[/IMG] [IMG]images/smilies/slap.gif[/IMG]"
I think I see a potential problem here . . . Where does it all end ? ? ?
. . . but maybe it's just me Thread starts most important???? I really don't know yet. First I have to do the coding to gather the info.
What is it that you see as the potential problem?
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06-09-2006, 04:22 PM
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Name: Pete City: Charlotte State: NC County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Jan 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 7.00 over 180 days |
The potential "problem" is if you "grade" people by number of posts and/or number of threads, or have a minimum number of posts required to keep your membership intact you have people logging on and posting meaningless messages and threads just to keep their "count" up. That's what I think Monty was alluding to.
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06-09-2006, 04:24 PM
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Name: Monty City: Hickory State: NC County: Catawba Join Date: Jul 2005 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 1.13 over 180 days |
was not.  | |
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06-09-2006, 04:42 PM
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Name: Pete City: Charlotte State: NC County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Jan 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 7.00 over 180 days |
Sorry - my bad. | |
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06-09-2006, 04:44 PM
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Name: jeff... City: Stovall State: NC County: Granville Join Date: Mar 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.81 over 180 days |
BTW I was trying to keep my posts up too 
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