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11-30-2007, 10:17 AM
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#1 | | NCWW 2008 Calendars are READY SteveColes President
Treasurer Name: Steve City: Apex State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 64
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 11-30-2007, 10:17 AM
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11-30-2007, 12:31 PM
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Name: Travis City: Wake Forest State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Dec 2005 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Just ordered 2. Look forward to getting them.
Cudos to all involved! |  
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11-30-2007, 12:59 PM
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Name: Jeremy City: Charlotte State: NC County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 30 Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.88 over 180 days |
Have we considered making a similar calendar and just putting in in PDF for members to download for free and print themselves? Nowadays many of us have these fancy color laser and inkjet printers and could print something nice and save $15 (+shipping).
Woodsmith does something similar each year and it's always a nice calendar (see http://www.woodworkingonline.com/calendar) | |
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11-30-2007, 07:10 PM
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Name: Monty City: Hickory State: NC County: Catawba Join Date: Jul 2005 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Congratulations to all the winners, and thanks to all who participated in the contest - it was really fun!
Jeremy - that's a good idea, too. | |
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11-30-2007, 08:54 PM
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#5 | | Director
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Name: Tom City: Raleigh State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 46 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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I just ordered mine!! I am honored to have it hanging in my shop. | |
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11-30-2007, 09:22 PM
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Name: Reggie City: Albemarle State: NC County: Stanly Join Date: May 2007 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Ordered 5 tonight.
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12-01-2007, 01:16 AM
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Name: Chris Mathes City: Harrisburg State: NC County: Cabarrus Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 37 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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I can't wait to get mine!!!! Yes, Monty! Great work! 
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12-01-2007, 09:46 AM
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#8 | | Moderator
Name: Peter Davio City: Hope Mills State: NC County: Cumberland Join Date: Dec 2005 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Have we considered making a similar calendar and just putting in in PDF for members to download for free and print themselves? Nowadays many of us have these fancy color laser and inkjet printers and could print something nice and save $15 (+shipping). Actually, I sold color printing products for a few years, and can confidently say that anyone using a home/office type inkjet printer will easily go through more than $15 in ink printing full page photos, and more if you print it on photo quality paper and choose to have the local office/copy shop bind it for you. which means you will spend more than the $15 and shipping costs on this calendar
Laser color printers are only a little more cost effective per print, when you consider the toner cost and wear on the drum. Each color laser print actually requires 4 impressions from the drum. This means the color laser copy requires a total of 55 impressions for the calendar. I forget what the average impression cost is, for a home office size printer, but you are still paying about $8 for the letter size photo paper, and $2 for binding, which means the home office laser printer user will still spend nearly $15 for a calendar that is smaller than the one published for us by Cafepress, and the home user can't print full-bleed, meaning edge to edge, because most home printers will not accept 9X11.5 inch paper, and then also don't have the equipment to neatly trim the printer product down to 8.5X11.
not even thinking about the problems with running color through the HOT fusing unit a FIFTH time to print the calendar on the reverse side. Color and double sided laser printing are not exactly friends.
commercially these things are done on presses, though who is to say CafePress wants to setup the press multiple times for a small job like this?
shhheeesh. and I own a laser printer (original retail was tooo much-good to have been in the business), which has sat in the garage for the last few years, because I haven't ordered the finishing unit, a $105 part..... Wear and tear items can eat you up on these things. 
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Last edited by NCPete; 12-01-2007 at 09:54 AM.
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12-01-2007, 11:38 AM
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Name: John Macmaster City: Eastover State: NC County: Cumberland Join Date: Oct 2006 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Got mine on order.
I have used this site (cafeexpress) before for another business that I had.
Works very well.
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12-01-2007, 07:39 PM
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Name: Chris Mathes City: Harrisburg State: NC County: Cabarrus Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 37 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Peter..that's some great information and answers some questions I have had outside of this site...thanks for sharing your expertise.
Chris
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12-01-2007, 08:29 PM
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Name: Jeremy City: Charlotte State: NC County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 30 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by NCPete  which means you will spend more than the $15 and shipping costs on this calendar Not if I print it and bind it at work | |
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12-01-2007, 09:13 PM
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#12 | | Director
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Name: Roger City: Durham State: NC County: Durham Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 62 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Great info Pete! But since CafePress does so many short runs. I'd bet they are using a digital press. Running four-up sheets, front and back are a piece of cake for them. They are very cost effective for up to 5000 or so copies. Traditional presses are more efficient for large runs, the larger the better. Setup cost for traditional presses make them inefficient for small runs.
Roger
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12-01-2007, 09:47 PM
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#13 | | President
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Name: Steve City: Apex State: NC County: Wake Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 64 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Just to state the obvious, all fo the pictures are in the gallery. Anyone is welcome to download them and make their own calander.
The only caveat is that they are NOT to be sold.
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12-01-2007, 10:18 PM
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Name: Jeremy City: Charlotte State: NC County: Mecklenburg Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 30 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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For those ordering a lot from CafePress, use the discount code JINGLE50 and receive FREE SHIPPING on orders more than $50.
Do I hear a group buy? Charlotte-area crew want to make this happen? | |
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12-02-2007, 12:14 AM
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#15 | | Moderator
Name: Peter Davio City: Hope Mills State: NC County: Cumberland Join Date: Dec 2005 Avg Visit Freq/Week
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Originally Posted by gotojeremy Not if I print it and bind it at work
hey, that's kind of cheating... but your color copier supplies guy really likes you , tho 
just as I got out of the business we started carrying a great product for perfect binding for the small office, actually developed/made by an outfit from Charlotte.
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