Calendar contest voting - Page 2

Calendar contest voting · 08-31-2009, 10:56 PM

Voting will start on September 2nd and close at 6:00 PM on September 13th. There looks like a lot of great entries. It is going to be tough to pick a winner. Remember you can only vote once in each category and you can not vote for your own.

So everyone knows what the winners will receive. The winner of each monthly category will receive a $50.00 gift certificate from one of our fine sponsors. The winner of the cover contest will receive a $100.00 Klingspor gift certificate. All winners will also receive one free calendar.

GOOD LUCK!!!!

froglips · 09-02-2009, 03:27 PM

I spoke too soon. You are free to read between the lines the highly moderatable things I'm not typing here......

Photopost Contest package forces images in a gallery to be Random while the voting is active.

When voting ends, they sort by number of votes.

While this is lovely, it totally messes up the Slideshow and Next/Previous Buttons.

Over on the Photopost support forum, people are mentioning their "opinion" about this.

For now, my best advice is not to use the slide show or next/previous buttons. You could open a category, then open each thumbnail in a new tab in your browser.

<grumble><grumble><grumble>

Jim

froglips · 09-02-2009, 03:50 PM

For those who want to use it, I've enabled "Download Favorites as Zip" for each Category.

This will create and download a zip file named "photopost.zip" to your computer with all the pictures in a given Category.

This is only for the sub-categories that have thumbnail pictures in it.

I'm hoping this will make it easier for some to navigate the pictures outside of the madness that is the Photopost Random sorting "feature".

Thanks,
Jim

CarvedTones · 09-02-2009, 04:12 PM

Jim,

Many years ago, I was a FORTRAN programmer for a market research firm. One of the things I developed for them was a computerized phone interview system. The interviewers read the questions off the screens (terminals; there was no PC yet) and typed in the response. One of the features I had to implement was random rotation of the answers to eliminate bias based on position in the list. This was not optional; a company could get in trouble for making claims about consumer preference based on flawed research. I actually got a call from someone at the FTC and nearly had to make a court appearance, but I told the person who called that I used a published Knuth algoritm for randomness (true) and I had no idea how it worked (also true). Anyway, there really is a reason to do that.

JimmyC · 09-02-2009, 04:29 PM

I just voted and the system worked very well, it was very easy.

kudo's to the site folk working on the format.

Good Luck to all that entered.

DavidF · 09-02-2009, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by CarvedTones

Jim,

Many years ago, I was a FORTRAN programmer for a market research firm. One of the things I developed for them was a computerized phone interview system. The interviewers read the questions off the screens (terminals; there was no PC yet) and typed in the response. One of the features I had to implement was random rotation of the answers to eliminate bias based on position in the list. This was not optional; a company could get in trouble for making claims about consumer preference based on flawed research. I actually got a call from someone at the FTC and nearly had to make a court appearance, but I told the person who called that I used a published Knuth algoritm for randomness (true) and I had no idea how it worked (also true). Anyway, there really is a reason to do that.

I agree with showing the pictures randomly, but showing the same one several times and others hardly at all was not what was planned I am sure

ScottM · 09-02-2009, 05:10 PM

This is great feedback. Please continue to post your comments. We can't fix /improve the process without your help.

froglips · 09-03-2009, 06:08 PM

For those who want some stats, I've setup a page showing total votes by category.

http://www.ncwoodworker.net/forums/v...estvotesummary

If there are other stats you'd enjoy watching, just let me know.

I put a link to this on the top Category for the contest 2010 Calendar Contest

Thanks,
Jim

walnutjerry · 09-07-2009, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by froglips

For those who want some stats, I've setup a page showing total votes by category.

http://www.ncwoodworker.net/forums/v...estvotesummary

If there are other stats you'd enjoy watching, just let me know.

I put a link to this on the top Category for the contest 2010 Calendar Contest

Thanks,
Jim

Jim--------I would still like to see how many votes each entry has. We can see who did the entry, why not the number of votes for it?

Jerry

froglips · 09-07-2009, 08:32 PM

That number of votes for each entry will be shown after the contest ends.

The "theory" is that knowing how many votes an entry has can sway peoples choices.

Jim

walnutjerry · 09-07-2009, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by froglips

That number of votes for each entry will be shown after the contest ends.

The "theory" is that knowing how many votes an entry has can sway peoples choices.

Jim

You have the say------------but I do not agree with it. I do not believe that would sway votes any more than knowing who made the entry, which is quite evident with the information included with the photo.

I will say no more about the issue.

Jerry

CarvedTones · 09-07-2009, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by froglips

That number of votes for each entry will be shown after the contest ends.

The "theory" is that knowing how many votes an entry has can sway peoples choices.

Jim

That isn't just a theory; it is market research 101 and political science 101. They don't allow vote counts to be released while polls are open because of it.

walnutjerry · 09-07-2009, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by CarvedTones

That isn't just a theory; it is market research 101 and political science 101. They don't allow vote counts to be released while polls are open because of it.

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Jerry

froglips · 09-07-2009, 10:53 PM

First, I believe its important for you to understand that I don't have "the say".

I take direction from the members, Staff and the Board of Directors. In this case, I know the software setup (way more than is good for a rational mind) so I replied.

Please say as much as you want! All the input from these threads will shape future voting contests we hold. If we don't know, well heck, we don't know.

Jim

CarvedTones · 09-08-2009, 07:13 AM

Jerry, I apologize for being so blunt, but tests done on that get very consistent results. Besides the election laws, the FTC also has regulations based on it; you can't make claims about opinion using flawed research (well, you can, but then you may end up in court). But the "101" comments were over the top. Sorry...

walnutjerry · 09-08-2009, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by CarvedTones

Jerry, I apologize for being so blunt, but tests done on that get very consistent results. Besides the election laws, the FTC also has regulations based on it; you can't make claims about opinion using flawed research (well, you can, but then you may end up in court). But the "101" comments were over the top. Sorry...

Apology accepted Andy----------no harm done.

Isn't it great we live in a country where we can voice our opinions!! We all have that priviledge.

I thank my father (a WWII soldier) and all the other service men for protecting that freedom.

Jerry