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06-15-2007, 11:07 PM
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Name: jeff...
City: Stovall
State: NC
County: Granville
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Form FC 4409-3
It's utterly stupid that I have to be "permitted" to burn some freaking tree limbs. Do you guys have a apply for a permit (Form FC 4409-3) to burn tree limbs? Man we used to have a camp fire out back often, kids love it, smores and stories and good clean family fun. We even pitched a tent a few times and camped out in the back yard at a moments notice. Cooked hot dogs on sticks (mmmm....) breakfast over an open fire in the morning in an iron skillet, double mmmm... But no more, now you have to be permitted by filling out FC 4409-3 to have family fun time around a camp fire. No more spirr of the moment "hey dad lets go build a camp fire out back and have some fun" nope you gotta apply and be permitted, to have fun, geeze. But wait you know it's perfectly ok and there is no permit required to get drunk most every day and be an a$$ to your neighbors. You just gotta shake you head and laugh because there is nothing else to do sometimes  and this is progress?
I gotta move, I can't take the city life, to many rules and to many neighbors.
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06-15-2007, 11:17 PM
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Asst. Webmaster Senior Moderator
Name: DaveO
City: Clayton
State: NC
County: Johnston
Join Date: Aug 2005
Age: 38
Avg Visit Freq/Week = 7.00 over 125 days
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Re: Form FC 4409-3
Here in Raleigh, I just go on-line and get a burn permit. It takes about a minute
http://www.dfr.state.nc.us/burn_perm..._nonhazard.asp
Dave 
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Honestly Honey, that will cost around $100 $150 $200, and I need a few more tools.
Heard from a client..."If I had your tools and experience...I could do it myself"
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
--Dr. Seuss
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06-15-2007, 11:20 PM
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This Space for rent
Name: jeff...
City: Stovall
State: NC
County: Granville
Join Date: Mar 2006
Avg Visit Freq/Week = 6.78 over 125 days
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Re: Form FC 4409-3
Really mine has to be signed by the mayor and is differnt, it's between midnight and 4 PM - I wonder if I can apply on-line like you Dave?
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"Do, or do not. There is no 'try'." -- Jedi Master Yoda
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06-15-2007, 11:24 PM
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Asst. Webmaster Senior Moderator
Name: DaveO
City: Clayton
State: NC
County: Johnston
Join Date: Aug 2005
Age: 38
Avg Visit Freq/Week = 7.00 over 125 days
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Re: Form FC 4409-3
The mayor's autograph could be a collectors item someday
Different counties have different regulations, you can submit the info and if you can't get one through the site then it will reject you. The nice thing is that the on-line permit is good for 30 days. It's really just a formality as there are good days to burn and very bad days to burn within every 30 day period. That's our tax dollars at work
It should work for Granville Co. http://www.dfr.state.nc.us/contacts/granville.htm
Dave 
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  Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
Honestly Honey, that will cost around $100 $150 $200, and I need a few more tools.
Heard from a client..."If I had your tools and experience...I could do it myself"
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
--Dr. Seuss
Last edited by DaveO; 06-15-2007 at 11:28 PM.
Reason: check application
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06-15-2007, 11:35 PM
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This Space for rent
Name: jeff...
City: Stovall
State: NC
County: Granville
Join Date: Mar 2006
Avg Visit Freq/Week = 6.78 over 125 days
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Re: Form FC 4409-3
Mine is for a week only, I'm going to apply on-line every 30 days, then we can have some back yard fun at the drop of the hat again
Thanks Dave, you really know a lot about a lot.
My Permit 
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"Do, or do not. There is no 'try'." -- Jedi Master Yoda
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06-15-2007, 11:44 PM
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This Space for rent
Name: jeff...
City: Stovall
State: NC
County: Granville
Join Date: Mar 2006
Avg Visit Freq/Week = 6.78 over 125 days
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Re: Form FC 4409-3
I got a 30 day permit on-line, delivered right to my email. Wow that was so much easier than having go up to city hall and ask the mayor.
Thanks Dave your awesome...
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"Do, or do not. There is no 'try'." -- Jedi Master Yoda
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06-16-2007, 09:35 AM
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Asst. Webmaster Senior Moderator
Name: DaveO
City: Clayton
State: NC
County: Johnston
Join Date: Aug 2005
Age: 38
Avg Visit Freq/Week = 7.00 over 125 days
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Re: Form FC 4409-3
Glad I could help, but now your collection of Mayoral autographs is gonna suffer
Dave 
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  Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
Honestly Honey, that will cost around $100 $150 $200, and I need a few more tools.
Heard from a client..."If I had your tools and experience...I could do it myself"
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
--Dr. Seuss
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06-16-2007, 10:15 AM
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This Space for rent
Name: Pete
City: Charlotte
State: NC
County: Mecklenburg
Join Date: Jan 2006
Avg Visit Freq/Week = 7.00 over 125 days
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Re: Form FC 4409-3
Out of curiosity I checked for Meck County and fornd this:
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A Note about burning permits in Mecklenburg County:
Due to strong local ordinances, which severely restrict outdoor burning, the NC Division of Forest Resources issues no burning permits for Mecklenburg County. For further information, contact your local fire warden, or our county office with the contact information listed below."
Nice . . .
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06-16-2007, 08:13 PM
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This Space for rent
Name: Tom
City: Yadkinville
State: NC
County: Yadkin
Join Date: Jun 2006
Avg Visit Freq/Week = 6.72 over 125 days
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Re: Form FC 4409-3
I would make my campfire, and if anyone said anything, I would tell them to get a running start and......
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06-16-2007, 08:19 PM
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This Space for rent
Name: Terrence P. Rielly
City: Fayetteville
State: NC
County: Cumberland
Join Date: Dec 2005
Age: 63
Avg Visit Freq/Week = 3.30 over 125 days
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Re: Form FC 4409-3
http://www.dfr.state.nc.us/burn_perm...ng_statute.htm
Article 4C. Regulation of Open Fires. § 113-60.21. Purpose and findings. The purpose of this Article is to regulate certain open burning in order to protect the public from the hazards of forest fires and air pollution and to adapt such regulation to the needs and circumstances of the different areas of North Carolina. The General Assembly finds that open burning in proximity to woodlands must be regulated in all counties to protect against forest fires and air pollution. The General Assembly further finds that in certain counties a high percentage of the land area contains organic soils or forest types which may pose greater problems of forest fire and air pollution controls, and that in counties in which a great amount of land-clearing operations is taking place on these organic soils or these forest types, additional control of open burning is required. The counties subject to the need for additional control are classified as high hazard counties for purpose of this Article. (1981, c. 1100, s. 2; 1981 (Reg. Sess., 1982), c. 1385, s. 1.)
Yes Times have changed, but in Cumberland County this is the General Statue that applies. Terry 
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06-17-2007, 10:18 AM
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This Space for rent
Name: Scott
City: Rock Hill
State: SC
County: York
Join Date: Apr 2007
Age: 31
Avg Visit Freq/Week = 0.00 over 125 days
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Re: Form FC 4409-3
In York, SC we get to call an 800 number and leave name, address, and a phone # after an automated message. Kind of a bother, but easier than filing a permit.
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06-17-2007, 06:21 PM
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This Space for rent
Name: Mark
City: Vass
State: NC
County: Moore
Join Date: May 2006
Avg Visit Freq/Week = 1.06 over 125 days
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Re: Form FC 4409-3
light the fire, when the law comes start dancing around said fire.
then explain thet it is a religious ceromony, seperation of church and state 
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06-17-2007, 11:17 PM
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This Space for rent
Name: jeff...
City: Stovall
State: NC
County: Granville
Join Date: Mar 2006
Avg Visit Freq/Week = 6.78 over 125 days
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Re: Form FC 4409-3
Originally Posted by Mark Anderson
light the fire, when the law comes start dancing around said fire.
then explain thet it is a religious ceromony, seperation of church and state 
Spooky, but would probably win in the court of law
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"Do, or do not. There is no 'try'." -- Jedi Master Yoda
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06-18-2007, 02:40 PM
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This Space for rent
Name: David
City: Pittsboro
State: NC
County: Chatham
Join Date: Oct 2005
Age: 51
Avg Visit Freq/Week = 4.03 over 125 days
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Re: Form FC 4409-3
Does it require a permit to burn in a fire pit or one of those fancy patio burners?
http://www.greenfingers.com/supersto...&pf_id=DD8154D
This type of thing.
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David
"There is no trouble so great or grave that cannot be much diminished by a nice cup of tea" Bernard-Paul Heroux
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06-18-2007, 06:40 PM
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Asst. Webmaster Senior Moderator
Name: DaveO
City: Clayton
State: NC
County: Johnston
Join Date: Aug 2005
Age: 38
Avg Visit Freq/Week = 7.00 over 125 days
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Re: Form FC 4409-3
Originally Posted by DavidF
AFAIK, it doesn't require any permit to use something like that in a patio. That's not much different than a charcoal grill...if you use enough lighter fluid  It's the open fires that are of most concern.
Dave 
__________________
  Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
Honestly Honey, that will cost around $100 $150 $200, and I need a few more tools.
Heard from a client..."If I had your tools and experience...I could do it myself"
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
--Dr. Seuss
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