North Carolina Woodworker
An Educational Service Of North Carolina Woodworker, Inc.
Javascript DHTML Drop Down Menu Powered by dhtml-menu-builder.com
Go Back   North Carolina Woodworker > Woodworking > "How To" Forum
Javascript DHTML Drop Down Menu Powered by dhtml-menu-builder.com

"How To" Forum Share your tips, tricks and answer that age old question...."Just how in the world did you do that?"


» Upcoming Events
Piedmont Wood Workers Guild March 20thFor more details......

Geodesic Shop Crawl April 10th Click for more info

Welcome New Member Chat! Every Thursday evening at 7:30pm Click here for more!
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-09-2006, 08:20 PM   #1
Jointing Boards
 
kota62's Avatar
Name: Gary Noble
City: Fayetteville
State: NC
County: Cumberland
Join Date: Nov 2005
Age: 47
Posts: 177
Threads: 22

Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to kota62  
kota62 kota62 is offline 03-09-2006, 08:20 PM

Learned this long ago, realised that i knew better today
When jointing 2 or more boards that I will edge glue together I first mark a triangle for alignment. When i joint them, I joint one "face up" to the jointer fence, the next "face down" to the fence. the logic of this is that you can rarely get the fence perfectly tuned to 90°, so if it happens to be 2° they would cancel out...
Gary
Views: 885
Old 03-09-2006, 09:43 PM   #2
 
Vanilla Gorilla's Avatar
 
Name: Marco Principio
City: Durham
State: NC
County: Durham
Join Date: Jan 2006
Age: 30
Posts: 291
Threads: 45
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 0.04 over 180 days
Re: Jointing Boards

that's a good tip. Now if only my shop wasn't the size of a postage stamp so I could actually fit in a jointer I'd be in business!! Maybe I should use my house as the shop and live in the shed, since I spend so little time in my house as it is!
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to Vanilla Gorilla    
Old 03-09-2006, 09:52 PM   #3
 
Splinter's Avatar
 
Name: Dolan Brown
City: Wallace
State: NC
County: Duplin
Join Date: Dec 2005
Age: 61
Posts: 1,230
Threads: 179
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 4.16 over 180 days
Re: Jointing Boards

Good tip Gary. This is the method that Kelly Mehler uses. I had forgot about it until I sat in one of his sessions at the Charlotte WWS in February. I try to keep my jointer set at 90 degrees but it doesn't take much to effect the glue joint, so I have started using it and it does work.
__________________
You can't work without tools.

So many tools so little money.
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to Splinter    
Old 03-10-2006, 09:01 AM   #4
 
Monty's Avatar
 
Name: Monty
City: Hickory
State: NC
County: Catawba
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,282
Threads: 232
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 1.59 over 180 days
Re: Jointing Boards

I like that tip! Thanks for posting.
__________________
My fledgeling woodworking web site: ShootingBoard.net
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to Monty    
Old 03-10-2006, 12:36 PM   #5
DQ
 
Name: Lorraine
City: Littleton
State: NC
County: Warren
Join Date: Dec 2005
Age: 61
Posts: 893
Threads: 137
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 1.13 over 180 days
Re: Jointing Boards

A question is never stupid so here goes. I want to make sure I understand what that post is saying. When I joint an end of a board, say for a tabletop, I run one side through and when I run the next board through I flip it so it isn't going in the same path as the first board. I have a 6" jointer and some times have problems.
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to lwhughes149    
Old 03-10-2006, 12:58 PM   #6
 
kota62's Avatar
 
Name: Gary Noble
City: Fayetteville
State: NC
County: Cumberland
Join Date: Nov 2005
Age: 47
Posts: 177
Threads: 22
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 0.12 over 180 days
Re: Jointing Boards

Using the pic i shamelessly stole
Look at the joint between 2 & 3, you would mark a triangle there for alignment. Joint the first board with 2 contacting the blades and the fence, the second board would have C contacting the blades and the fence...
Clear as mud???
Yesterday when i jointed some boards i failed to check fence alignment, when i clamped them they rose up like the peak of a roof, flipping one made them parallel
Take care
Gary
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	boards jointing.jpg
Views:	219
Size:	58.2 KB
ID:	340  
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to kota62    
Old 03-10-2006, 01:00 PM   #7
Administrator
 
DaveO's Avatar
 
Name: DaveO
City: Clayton
State: NC
County: Johnston
Join Date: Aug 2005
Age: 39
Posts: 15,033
Threads: 702
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 6.81 over 180 days
Re: Jointing Boards

Mark the top faces of your boards. Joint one board edge with the marked face against the fence. Then joint the other with the marked face away from the fence. That way if your jointer fence is set at 90.5 deg. one board will have it's edge at 90.5 deg. to the face and the other will have it's edge at 89.5 deg. to the face. That will cancel out any slight imperfection in the fence setting.
Does that help explain it better?
Dave
__________________
Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile

Honestly Honey, that will cost around $100 $150 $200, and I need a few more tools.

Heard from a client..."If I had your tools and experience...I could do it myself"

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
--Dr. Seuss
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to DaveO    
Old 03-10-2006, 07:18 PM   #8
DQ
 
Name: Lorraine
City: Littleton
State: NC
County: Warren
Join Date: Dec 2005
Age: 61
Posts: 893
Threads: 137
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 1.13 over 180 days
Talking Re: Jointing Boards

Dave, I see what you are saying. If I have two boards, the two insides are to be glued together. I will have the top surface against the fence on the first on and flip the second board. But this is only necessary if I find out my fence was off.
Because jointing a board properly is a new art for me I find that I get best results when I mark a pencil line and let that be my guide. I find sometimes that one end cuts more than the other one so I just flip the board and continue until the board meets the line. Not very scientific but it seems to work. I think the problem is that when I pass the board over the blades I need to make sure I keep the board close to the fence and keep my pressure over the blades. I tend to press down on the outfeed side and not keep the board tight against the fence. So much to learn. I need to go back to that book again and practice more. So far everything I have made has gone together well so I guess I must be doing something right.
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to lwhughes149    
Old 03-10-2006, 08:54 PM   #9
 
Splinter's Avatar
 
Name: Dolan Brown
City: Wallace
State: NC
County: Duplin
Join Date: Dec 2005
Age: 61
Posts: 1,230
Threads: 179
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 4.16 over 180 days
Re: Jointing Boards

Kelly Mehler's tip in his session was to mark the "V" across the top of all boards to be jointed with chalk, then using chalk mark the board edges to be jointed as follows......one with an "I" (for inside) the mating edge with an "O" (for outside)and the next with an "I" and the next with an "O" and so on and so on. Then when you go to the jointer put the faces with the "I" against the fence and those with the "O" away from the fence. Then when you put the boards back together the angles of the mating edges will equal out. If the fence is a perfect 90 degrees everything is okay and it the angle of the fence is off you are still okay. Clear as mud right.
__________________
You can't work without tools.

So many tools so little money.
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to Splinter    
Old 03-10-2006, 09:22 PM   #10
Member
 
Steve D's Avatar
 
Name: Steve DeWeese
City: Horse Shoe
State: NC
County: Henderson
Join Date: Oct 2005
Age: 46
Posts: 1,311
Threads: 69
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 0.00 over 180 days
Re: Jointing Boards

Great tip
__________________
Home of the USS Crescent battle group.
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to Steve D    
Old 03-13-2006, 08:16 PM   #11
 
D L Ames's Avatar
 
Name: D L Ames
City: Fayetteville
State: NC
County: Cumberland
Join Date: Oct 2005
Age: 51
Posts: 2,946
Threads: 66
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 0.04 over 180 days
Re: Jointing Boards

Great tip Gary, thanks for posting it.

D L
__________________
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. George Orwell (1903 - 1950)
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to D L Ames    
Old 03-16-2006, 12:21 PM   #12
 
DavidF's Avatar
 
Name: David
City: Pittsboro
State: NC
County: Chatham
Join Date: Oct 2005
Age: 53
Posts: 4,107
Threads: 194
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 4.04 over 180 days
Re: Jointing Boards

Just my two pen'th - When laying out the boards; two in this example; mark them with the triangle as you have said and then pick them up and close them like a book. Pass them over the jointer together. "Open" the book again and lay them flat - perfect joint.
__________________
David
"There is no trouble so great or grave that cannot be much diminished by a nice cup of tea" Bernard-Paul Heroux
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to DavidF    
Old 03-16-2006, 01:49 PM   #13
 
RandyJ's Avatar
 
Name: Randy
City: Macon
State: NC
County: Warren
Join Date: Jan 2006
Age: 59
Posts: 2,018
Threads: 35
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 5.87 over 180 days
Re: Jointing Boards

Great tip Gary! Sounds like there are several ways to skin this cat. For my simple mind, GaryF's "book" suggestion sounds easier. Thanks all for helping to edumacate me.
Randy
__________________
Randy
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to RandyJ    
Old 03-16-2006, 02:20 PM   #14
 
DavidF's Avatar
 
Name: David
City: Pittsboro
State: NC
County: Chatham
Join Date: Oct 2005
Age: 53
Posts: 4,107
Threads: 194
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 4.04 over 180 days
Re: Jointing Boards

DavidF....
__________________
David
"There is no trouble so great or grave that cannot be much diminished by a nice cup of tea" Bernard-Paul Heroux
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to DavidF    
Old 03-16-2006, 03:09 PM   #15
 
RandyJ's Avatar
 
Name: Randy
City: Macon
State: NC
County: Warren
Join Date: Jan 2006
Age: 59
Posts: 2,018
Threads: 35
Avg Visit Freq/Week
= 5.87 over 180 days
Re: Jointing Boards

OOPS My apologies DAVIDF !!! I told you I had a SIMPLE mind.....
Randy
__________________
Randy
Show Printable Version Email this Page   Quote this post in a PM to RandyJ    
Closed Thread New posts
  North Carolina Woodworker > Woodworking > "How To" Forum

Tags
boards , jointing

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
shooting boards DavidF Hand Tools and their Use 2 01-25-2006 11:51 AM






Search Woodcraft.com for All Your Woodworking Needs


Search Woodcraft.com For ALL Your Woodworking Needs!
» Stats
Members: 4,231
Threads: 28,211
Posts: 295,366
Top Poster: DaveO (15,033)
Welcome to our newest member, JohnG
» Today's Birthdays
Canuck (63)
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.0

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
Template-Modifications by TMS
Content Copyright © 2005 - 2009 North Carolina Woodworker, Inc.